Looks like you won't be doing much painting for a few days Bees.

I cant touch till Tuesday anyway, but it in the factory, so light and weather isn't an issue... Only time

You still should keep an eye on the weather, rainy days can send the paint a bit milky looking.
You may not notice it on a light colour but it could show on dark colours.

The blue boat looks like a midget compared to the new builds Jumpus.. Chalk and cheese

No worries Fed, I'll be careful... The milky thing you mentioned is called Blush..

Of to the Grand Final this arvo.. My wife is a mexican, so i will have to go for Parra.. She needs the contraversy

Is it finished yet Bees?

Got it from a GooDarus source !

He's still wai ting for salty to rock up & give him a hand to sand inside the LBT 7 other cavities

Salty wont rock up unless there's a Milk Crate there for him to stand on so he can reach up high

So Bees is out looking for milk crates

Hi Fed, progress has been made.. Everything is rubbed back, but i want to do a few things before i paint it.. So no colour for at least a week..

Jumpus, i actually have 2 crates at the back there.. So Salty can come over anytime... But it's a bit far, he may need a passport

If your cavities are a bit rough you should try KY Gel, it would have to be better then Salty on a milk crate with sandpaper.
What's your background Bees, I wouldn't want to be telling you how to suck eggs mate.
Get yourself a really good respirator, I've sprayed a couple of boats using only those paper masks and had paint running from my nose for days, the paper ones are useless and you need something that seals around your face.

Reason for edit: Double Post, jeez it's clunky Ozman.

Ewe hopimg salty will bring his new dance partner 4 ewe to meet huh

I run a chicken farm Fed!! I know eggs and stuff


Yes mate i have a respirator, i use it to keep the chicken shit smell away from my hooter... Hopefully this will suffice

I didnt use it on the first trailer and the multi colour boogies kept me amused for a few days

Gotta get myself one of those respitatorors, bloody new houses with fresh pesticide dust in the roof

http://www.digital-sledgehammer.com/superc...ctheme_full.wav

I bet you're good at "feeding the chooks" too.

They need to be fed every day mate Keeps a smile on the face

Mate, download that onto the mp3!! I want that run constantly, for our next 6hr fishing trip

Sorry for multiple posts, but i needed to post this....

I've been flat out with work, (the chooks are always hungry) so i have been just pinching at bits on the the boat. But my step-dad has been getting into it, lots of sanding... We have done a couple of things to make the skins look pretty Well its a couple of hours away from priming, so it's close...

My young bloke ditched a day out with friends yesterday.. He wanted to come and work in the factory. This kid will never join a dole cue, trust me... He turns 8 this month. Fiona dropped him at work around 9am and we locked up at around 5pm.. Needless to say, he earned some pocket money..

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What year do you plan to have it finished bees?

This year mate... I need to fish!!

that makes two of us. its looking good mate.

Paul

I suppose ewe want me to invite salty as well so the pair of ewes can do the

Dance ??

Way to go Jake. I have some gold rimmed sunnies he can borrow, to keep that dust out of his eyes. They belonged to 'the King', before the burger got him.

Nice work K-man In the words of 'the king'... Thankyou very much

Jumpy, how would you know if me and Salty dance out there?? Your usually having a ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz

Work is so much better when the kids come along to give you a hand, my middle daughter now 13 does the occasional day in the holidays when she wants to earn a few $$$$, she looks after the paperwork, keeps the cables running up the walls tangle free and tells me where to cut the holes when doing 2story string line drops and when we've got to drill the noggin on internals. She really enjoys it now as she gets to activate the service with the PDA we now use for work.....I usually ask her what she enjoys most about helping her old man out for the day and like many of us the best part for her is when the cold hard hits her hand-she earns $10 per job-we average 5-8 a day. She used to like Mc'd or the KFC lunch but thats just a bonus for her.

@ least ewe pay your kids in $$$'s

Bees pays his yung fulla with Chookens & Ducks

They dont call him Bees Galea 4 nut ting

I've been away for a little bit. Where are we with the new build? The sticky thread seems to be out of order or have you started a third? So what's happened (in a nut shell).

Finally primed the boat yesterday and today. Therer are a few spots i want to fix up. You dont see everything until it has some sort of colout on it. I'll start sanding tomorrow arvo, then touch up in a few areas.... Then it is paint time..


Boat all masked up...

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Pretty in pink

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Looks like you borrowed the film set off Dexter. Good on ya. Getting there. I had to "free" up my Teleflex steering today. Some white lithium spray grease and new grease in the tilt tube saw it loose again. Things get away from you if you don't keep them maintained. Still looking for glass for my windscreen

Looking forward to seeing it in the flesh, sometime. You need a bigger car.

Not bad work from Bees Galea,

good to see you havent lost your touch when it comes to cracking the whip and gettin the relo's to do all the work.


The float may be ready in time for the mardi bra.



Bafoo.

You've had the goat that long now I'd 4gotten wot it looked like

The last goaty is nearly @ the stage you're @

Tis a different goat once again from yours

What's your painting process bees?
From when you get it off Jumpy's angle grinder to the finished product?

Why glass KK, it's only a tinny.
Just a hint, whenever I grease my motor I fill up the domed nut that holds the steering cable onto the motor then when I do it back up it forces grease through the tilt tube so I get a contsant stream of fresh grease going through it.
Do it with the steering retracted on left lock so you can't get any hydraulic lock up happening.
It's strange I've never see anyone ever suggesting that in all the seized steering threads I've seen.

Well, I'll take yours then!!

Is that gatorade in the bottle JG, looks like someone got a bit caught up doing boaty bits and had to use the verry small plastic potty

Had a chat with Bees and he really is a smart bugger.
Got to give it to him...
He told me hes not even bothering to get the materials to finish JG s boat.
He has his boat ready, thats enough.......

I thought i was on top of my game salty, but he now has the metal.. And im flat out at work... I'm in trouble

Nope it's Powerade

Who's got the Power ??????????????????????

Jumpus Has

I lose alot of body salts working in the heat & start to cramp up in the hands thus the Powerade

A couple more weeks of the stuff & I'll be entering the Hawaian Alloyman competition



Why R U telling Porky's

I rang Mr Bees 2day & Jo answered the his phone

I asked where was the WATTO man ????

She told me he was out having a FAG

So I had to ask as wun does, was Kinky there ??????????

She didn't get the Joke

True story...

Did ewe tell her wot I was on about ??????

No... She will work it out..

Nya Nya Nya

Told ewes Jumpus will have his goat painted B4 Bees

I dont tell Porky's much

Start painting in the morn

More nya nya nya

Hey Jumpy what's the deal with blaming the Revesby ramp for the boat no sliding off, that ramp is as good as they get.
I'd hate to see you on a flat ramp, I thought you said skid trailers slide off as good as roller trailers, have I got news for you. THEY DON'T!
Mine rolls off on that ramp by itself, don't even need to push it by hand.

Trailer brakes? Has anyone weighed one of these rigs yet, it's black & white, there is no grey area on a new trailer.

Did you build any condensation into the fuel tanks for these boats?
BTW, I liked your little breather covers but I still have enough pressure to piss uphill. HaHaHaHa!

That would be right

I read sum where that the Revesby ramp was designed for Hillbillys & their boats , that's why ewe like it

Wun hand pushing the boat off the other attending to your

@ your age having the boat roll off by itself allows for tu hands on the cause nobody can get that sirri using wun


Jokes over !

It's a bit hard [not your ] for a boat to leave the trailer when there's no water under the hull & yes that ramp is very flat compared with the wuns in the Bay




1st rule for brakes

Only required if trailer goes over a certain weight, these being alloy they weigh SFA thus brakes not required for the trailer itself

1st rule for brakes

Only required if trailer goes over a certain weight, these being alloy they weigh SFA thus brakes not required for the trailer itself
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For those who may not be aware of the regulations of brakes on a trailer.
If a trailer itself ( unladen ) weights more then 150 kilo it is required that it has override brakes fitted.
If a trailer + it's gross weight exceeds 750 kilo then that trailer requires override brakes.

So I would suggest anyone with a boat near 5 metres or over to load it up with the usual equipement they normally have in the boat when they use it ( tow it ) including fuel grog and anything else they have in the boat when towing it, and take it to a weighbridge. If it's over 750kg it needs brakes.

The RTA are ramdomly going to boat ramps throughout NSW with portable scales and weighing trailers as they enter the ramp area.
If your boat/trailer/equipement weights over 750kg's you are then required to have your boat/trailer towed back home OR a place where brakes can be fitted to the trailer. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TOW THE TRAILER YOURSELF, you have to have it professionally towed by a registered tow truck. You can arrange your own tow OR the RTA will arrange a tow and bill you for it.
For those who don't believe me, and have a boat weighing over 750kg's gross all up weight on trailer I just hope you keep getting away with it.
For those who want to stay within the laws and don't want to take the risk of a very expensive tow from a ramp, I suggest you weight your outfit.

I don't mean this to be interpreted as any kind of critisism to Jumpys post, just would prefer the members here to be aware of the true facts.

I've got a funny feeling the unladen weight limit is 250Kg but if you've checked it recently Frank then I'll stand corrected.
Also the 750Kg cut off does NOT include the downward weight on the towball so anyone getting their boat/trailer rig weighed should do it while still connected to the car.

I actually went down to the RTA in botany & had a word with wun of the inspectors rather than speak to a clueless desk jocky.
Also bear in mind I spent a few $$'s setting my tow vehical up to tow [irrelevant as far as RTA goes but I have peace of mind]

THE LAW

In December 1998 an agreement was reached by all State Ministers of Transport to implement national towing regulations throughout Australia. The uniform law states all trailers with an Aggregate Trailer Mass (including the load) over 750 kg must be fitted with brakes to comply with the national road regulations.

According to the Australian Design Rules, all trailers over 750kgs GTM, irrespective of the towing capacity or unladen mass of the tow vehicle, must have an effective brake system fitted. All brakes must be operable from the drivers seat of the tow vehicle except for over-ride brakes.

The minimum braking system required for a trailer or caravan depends on its type and weight, as well as the weight of the tow vehicle.....

• Up to 750kgs GTM: No brakes are required.

• 751 to 2,000kgs GTM: There must be a braking system on the wheels of at least one axle and over-ride brakes are permitted. However, for caravans exceeding 1000kgs, independent brakes (electric brakes are the most common
form) are strongly recommended.

• Over 2,000kgs GTM: A brake system operating on all wheels is required. The system must be capable of automatically activating should the trailer become detached from the tow vehicle. Under these circumstances the brakes must remain applied for at least 15 minutes. These 'break away' systems are compulsory on all trailers over 2,000kgs GTM.




WHAT IS AN ELECTRIC BRAKE CONTROLLER

An electric trailer brake controller is a device that supplies power from a vehicle to a trailers electric brakes when the vehicles brakes are applied. Any trailer with electric brakes needs a brake controller to activate the operation of the brakes.



HOW IT WORKS

Power is fed from the vehicles stoplights into the controller, activating the trailers brakes via a separate heavy duty circuit fed through the trailers connecting plug and socket. This allows the trailers brakes to come on automatically when you apply the vehicles brakes, at a rate set by the controller. When the controller is adjusted correctly, the driver will be able to slow the tow vehicle and trailer combination just as smoothly as if the tow vehicle was by itself.

It is important the wiring is heavy enough for the power to run through to the trailer with a good earth return, not just earthed to the body. Of course proper maintenance of the brakes with regular adjustment of the shoes & care of the magnets goes without saying.



WHERE DOES IT GO

Most electric brake controllers are of a slimline contoured design allowing under dash placement easily within the drivers reach. From the drivers seat you can control the rate of brake application from soft to aggressive my simply moving the control forward or backward. Most controllers also have a manual over-ride device which allows the user to apply the trailers brakes independently of the vehicles brakes.



TYPES OF CONTROLLERS

There are two types of electric brake controllers - motion sensing or pendulum style and time delay activated or solid state. Although the controllers methods are different, both types of controllers are very similar. Both allow the user to adjust output or braking power & both have a pressure sensitive manual over-ride trigger that can be used to apply the trailer brakes independent of the vehicles brakes & as well as having the same wiring configuration.

MOTION SENSING or pendulum style controllers are enabled by the brake pedal switch and activated by a pendulum circuit that senses the vehicles stopping motion and applies a proportional voltage to the trailers brakes. When properly adjusted the trailer will decelerate at the same speed as the tow vehicle. This increases braking efficiency and reduces brake wear. A big advantage of the pendulum style controller that it will operate well under adverse braking conditions and have a smooth braking action. Although most pendulum style controllers are bulky, more expensive and must be mounted and calibrated level, there are exceptions such as the new generation controllers like Tekonsha Prodigy.

TIME DELAY controllers operate the trailers brakes at a pre-determined braking rate. These controllers are designed to activate the brakes at a set delay from when the stoplights are activated. In some instances the rate of brake application is no different for a gradual stop to that of an attempted emergency stop. It is important to note that while time delay controllers provide some braking, it does not provide the most efficient balanced braking for the combination of car and trailer. Time delayed controllers are inexpensive, have a low profile, and can be mounted on any angle.

Fed. You will find that I am right, the weight is 150kg's.
This is for a boat trailer which our members would be concerned with. Caravans and plant trailers and a few other type trailers have different regulations, which I won't go into here.

Cant see how ewe can be correct Frank ????????

Irrellevant whether it's a boat or box trailer 150 kgs is Seirra Foxtrot Alpha

By adding mech brakes to a 150 kg trailer you've just increased it's weight by 25 %

I know this cause I just went through it

In other words wot ewe are saying is that even box trailers are illigal & need brakes cause ewe put wun of those on a weighbridge it'll go over the 150 kg mark

Not looking for logic jumpy as we are dealing with a government department, simply stating what the regulations say in black and white.
There is always the possibility that they have made a mistake in the printing of documents and on their web site.

Agree with ewe there frank !

Bunch of morons as far as I'm concwerned that's why I went & spoke to wun of the inspectors instead of a dingaling on the ph.

Bees can verify I lost it @ the RTA when we went to register his trailer cause they couldn't access their data base Bees had to pay $15 to get a permit to drive his trailer home cause they were to stupid to accept all the paperwork & his money & mail him his rego.

I had to walk out B4 I really lost it, silly woman instead of apologising for the inconvience insisted it was not their fault couldn't get it through her thick head twas their data base not ours that was out of action & it's their responsibility not ours, her supervisor was no better & just as stupid so I walked out & let Bees sort it out

I even had a disagreement @ the weighbridge today & got the guy to re-weigh the trailer cause it went 45 kg hevier than the other 2 & I know I used around 10 kg less alloy on this wun.