Um !

In general yes they could've got the boat built in china for a hell of alot cheaper than getting wun built here

Chi Nee are hopeless @ designing etc but they are great copy cats

BUT !

The cost of these 3 goaty's has amazed even Jumpus I wont disclose how much cause I wont get believed bear in mind I'm not adding labour costs into the equation either nor has any expense been skimped on as far as the fittings etc.

Have to give a wee bit of credit to my off sider Bees, he's been playing my secretary on the projects chasing up the deals, opening accounts with co's to get the prices, we got some super super deals on the alloy this alone has kept costs right down.

Helpswhen your ordering for 3 goats as well a mate of mine in the industry cant get the price on alot of the gear that I did & he's in the industry, then there's all the peeps Jumpus knows who go out of their way to do the best deals for him we're talking 60% discount on fasteners I'm now on 40% off on the paints & the list goes on.

And yep the 1st boat will be used as a promo for their gear that's the main reason I ended up scaping that tinny project a few months back & talked them into a new goaty, me tinks I'll have to spend a couple of days @ their warehouse raiding the shelves & setting up outfits /tackle box's for the goat

Have to admit it's good to see the boys bringing in alot of good gear in these days instead of the rubbish they initially started importing & their sales are a testiment to that they are doing quite well now.

As far as the Viva Factory in China goes well it's gigantorus 100,000 sq meters has everything from accomidation apartments tenis courts, swiming pool etc etc etc only completed this year so it's a brand new complex, Viva is now the biggest manufacturer of rods & reels in the world.



Yeah Fed I'm curious as well & will weigh it when I drop the goaty off on thursday, I've done calculations by how much alloy went into the goaty

JUMPUS: you amaze me - the boat(s) are really great AND I know just how much work you have put into them.
Even to think of tackling projects of that size by yourself - good on ya!

It looks like the forum ghost is still posting pictures... BRRR! Spooky.

I checked the Merc website out of curiosity.
Dry 90HP 4 Banger 181 Kg.
Trailer 280 Kg.
120 Litres of fuel 90 Kg.

Looks like you have a couple of hundred Kilos for the boat + fittings etc.

These goats are toys compared to sum of the projects I'd built B4 retiring

Jumpus gas allways said if your heart is not in wot ewe are doing then ewe shouldn't be doing it

That's why I retired, ewe cant be good @ wot ewe aew doing if your heart is not in it.

Building these goaty'd has lit a spark again after all these years it's looking @ the end product that gives me a stiffy then I sit back & think back to wot has gone into them .



Yep & I deleted them

Oz attachments are starting to appear out of the blue again



Trailer dosen't factor in to the weight , it's wot the trailer is carrying that counts

Mate IM JUST GETTING A STIFFY READING ABOUT THE BUILD.

superb awsome .


ANG, 10 OUT OF 10 GO TO THE TOP OF THE CLASS.



bAFOO.


PS. SPOKE TO BEES THE OTHER DAY AND HE HAD A GRIN FROM EAR TO EAR.

Well there you go, I have always thought the 750 Kg and up for brakes was the all up weight including the trailer.

I've gotta say that I don't know from personal experience with trailer weights but that's how I've always seen it.

Not that real happy with this wun bafoo 2B honest a few stuff ups soured it but the new owners loved it they were grinning from ear to ear today

I'm eager to get started on the next wun cause I know there wont be any stuff up on the next 2 now that I've nutted evlly ting out

Bees liked the layout of this wun but mine will be alot different, I installed the sounder/GPS today same with the downrigger all the elects are now complete, I even sprayed in the rego on the boat peel off the masking tommorro give it a cleanup.

Then I can drop it down onto the ground onto sum rollers & push it out about 2 meters else the windscreen frame will crash the roof, Then up it goes onto the trailer ready for monday when I take it down to my mates & bolt the motor on, not even going to attempt doing it @ my place alot easier with the forklift.

I should have everything else hooked up by tuesday & wednesday it's off for a test run.

I wont take any more pics till it's out of the driveway.



That's why you have the trailers Tare Weight on the rego papers & why a weighbridge certificate is required to register a vehicle they deduct that from the overall weight

Yep Fed, i was asking the same questions regarding weight... There isn't much that he misses

I have been looking at other plate builds lately, and was wondering if 90hp was enough?? I've seen a few this size with 115's and a 5.7 or something had a 140 suzuki on the back...
Regardless, i dont need wot/36kts... Just a nice planing speed will do.

I'd expect it would do 36 Knots WOT with an average load anyway Bees.
More than fast enough and you get a terrific range as a bonus with the 90.
I've had mine up to 35 Knots and it's probably heavier & pushes more air with the cab & canopy.

Jumpus aint Stupid he was Wai Ting for the 1st 2 guinea pigs B4 he decided wot size dont to order 4 himself

GooDarus guess with the 80 yammy going on the back of the 1st goaty it'll pull around 33 knots more than enough speed

I've allready decided on the 115 HP anyways simply cause it's the same size & weight as the 80 Hp & the 100 Hp + I'd rather be baby'n a bigger motor than reving out a smaller Hp wun

Besides I get to say

My Wun is BIGGER than yours

Was out & about yesterday out @ Hunts marine they had sum quintrex's in the showroom & I wooked @ the prices & got a shock

Love to know wot these are worth

J.G. with this question I was thinking more along the lines of things like sounders G.P.S. if they can get them out of China at a good price there new boat would be the best place to run tests.

I would think there is a big market for combos, there is no way some one like myself are going to splash out 3grand on a combo to fish the rivers and stream's. yes there are cheep ones out there but most are black and white and the sounders arn't much good in deeper water, plus most have small screens, and with me eye sight they are not an option I think its worth them thinking about it

Looking the goods Ang.
I caught up on all the posts of the build yesterday and see your flying along. Bees, you must be getting a stiffy!
Any covers going to be made up for them, or is that an optional extra by the owners?

Salty, there has been movement ... On another note, not related to movement (Unless it's reciprocated) We have to catch up I'll have more fishing time in a week...

Jumpus wrote;

I dont know how the boat builders loose money Jumpus... Seriously.. Now that you have witnessed buying power in the industry first hand, there is a tidy profit for the builders V's the product that they push out.

To think there would be further saving bringing your metal in from china. Mass producing... Keel and gunwale dies for the more time consuming parts of the build...

To me, they have no excuse..

I can't really agree Bees, yes they do have massive buying power, but there overheads are massive as well and that money has to won back, as J.G. said he has not facted in labor, to me that would add in at least another 25to30% perhaps even more
J.G. any idea how many hours have gone in to the build???????????

Cant do that poly !

Agencies get set up here & they have to be protected by the factories

Having said that I got a shock yesterday, I'd allready spoken to the boys from Viva about bringing in some Lecky's for these goats, they have brought them in B4 100 units went to Qld but these were just a transom mount troll motor came from the very same factory as the Javis Walker Snakes.

I wanted the 100 lb thrust for these goats & got declined by the factory back in China reason being Javis Walker have the rights to all the foot contolled Lecks.

The shock I was refering to previously was the Min Kota 80 lb sells for $2,300 here even with my discount out of that price it's still expensive so we found a sneaky work around going to use wun of the european agencies to order from factory in china & ship them off to us @ their cost price, I wont disclose how much 4 but it's put a smile on my face.



I know wot ewe mean I got a shock myself yesterday @ the prices on display.

Cause the boys will be fushing the bays & rivers & not clued up on electronics twas pointless steering them towards the Furuno gear that I use & ended up with a Lowrance combo & all I can say to those who reckon the Lowrance is any where near as good as the Furuno is.

Wake Up To Yourselves

They dont lose money Bees

Wot my shock was $35 k for a pissy wittle Quintrex under 5 meter, nothing special about the trailer either & it had a 2 stroke on the back.

Not just the Boat Building industry any buisness if you dont know how to shop & buy you're throwing profits away.

Just wook @ the Jumpus Brainstorms on these goats & how sneaky I was knowing how & where to shop

No idea poly

Ewe have to remember I'm no spring chookens any more & when the crones plays up I get very little done.

Also I went into production mode from the start & everything is all cut up for the next 2 which I might add trailer is just about finished for wun of them & after getting the 1st goat onto it's trailer today ready to take out & get the motor bolted up in the morn.

I even managed to set up the jig this arvo for the next wun, all the frames have been bolted to the jig & the rolled stringers as well decided to call it a day early when I discovered I only had 2 lengths of 500 mm x 6 mm flat bar left

Did ewe hear that Bees ???????????? I want another 20 lengths Yesterday

Mine is bigger than Bees salty thought he could fool ellybloody by getting a BLACK wun but Jumpus went wun Bigger


Mercs are only regarded as Peus extentions if they have 4 wheels & a soft top


Prob Wednesday out for a test run salty thursday @ the latest

I'm going fishing in the back half of this week Jumpy so if we coincide I'll get some pics holding the camera still this time.

Boat will be out your way after the water test Fed if I'm happy with everything

Get out there mate, Snapper are back on. In size, and in numbers.

Il have to get out there myself and have a looky for them aswell this week when hopefully that part for my engine comes in.

Sounds like a plan Bees. I know weve said it a few times and it hasnt happened, but we have to sort out a session together.
The thing is that living so close to the water i never plan to go out, its always on the morning or late the night before.

Hmmmmmmmm !

Sounds more like a plan to do another Barry Manilow Concert 2 me


I've been a Jelly Bean forever
and I wrote the very first song
I put the words and
the melodies together
I am music
And I write the songs

(chorus)
I write the songs
that make the whole world sing
I write the songs
of love and special jelly things
I write the songs
that make the young watto's cry
I write the songs
I write the songs

My home lies deep within you Bees
And I've got my own place in your soul
Now when I look out through your eyes
I'm young again, even though I'm very old

I need a tune to sing it to otherwise it just sounds like poetry.

And poetry aint my thing....

Come on Jump, give me something to work with.....

Ewe Brurry Irriot that is a song in fact it's wun of your favourite singers songs

Yep Ewe guessed it

Barry Snozza Manilow

May help ewe sing it with a Peisanno

Looking good Jumpus... I may have to get this trailer done :doctor:

Think so

I've only got a day or 3 left on it & it has to be gone else the muts will claim it as their own

Paint went on the hull

Sandblasting sucks... Period

not really, I just think it is expensive

Well @ least Bees wont go to Hungry

Think of all the SandWhichIsThere

Didn't it piss down this arvo

Not much I could do on the goat till I re jack it up way ting for paint on hull to go off a bit harder & 4 materials to get delivered.

Got the itch to go for a fush againso went through the big goat & gave it a good cleaning with the gernie, did a minor service on the motors.

Also started to do that extention on the hard top

Well i got over to Jumpy's today.... Lads, the boat blew me away. It is impressive to say the least. A ton of room and the new console design is awsome... I had a smile from ear to ear..

My 2 kids jumped inside the console... plenty of room

How did ewe manage to get the kids off the Jumpus GooDarus ????????

Did they nag ewe for wun off those afterwards ???

ps] ewe missed out I went to that Noodle place for dinner how was Macca's

Mate, they loved the big one.. Didn't they.. Kids had a ball.

They love Maccas, but i would of prefered the noodle bar

That Mr Bean a talented fellow Jumpy... Little bit twitchy downstairs... I'm sure the ladies love it

Trailer looks great... Salty has promised to teach me how to fish now

What's the reason for lowering the trailer Jumpy, do you need to get enough water to semi float the boats off?

You told me boats slide off these skid trailers on their own.

Just having a pot shot at you mate but how do you get on at a flat ramp?
River Rd ramp is a good angle, my boat rolls in by itself, even my old Caribbean Commodore (20½ Ft) used to roll off without help and that was one heavy boat with everything but the Kitchen sink. No wait! It did have the kitchen sink too.

Now be nice and let me have my fun.

Couple of reasons

1. goat lower 2 ground which makes for safer towing
2. ewe dont have to sink the car @ ramps.



It Is

That ramp is very flat & it was chocks's with sand buildup

On another note took the trailer to get Blue Slipped 2day all was fine & passed till they delivered the unspection guys new Seeing Dog

Didn't know wot the dog was whispering in the guys ear but he then turned around & defected the paint job

Said the guy who sprayed it must've ended up with his old blind dog

Yeah I know what you mean mate, my boat used to sit like a cocky on a perch with my old trailer and it felt very unstable. Now with the new trailer it sits at least 6" lower, maybe even 8".
I can rip round corners with gay abandon now.
Have you heard from the Viva boys, I bet they haven't used the boat yet, they seemed a bit scared of it to me.

Wouldn't have been so bad if the boat was getting reversed back by my car, I have towball hight etc spot on but behind the commodore tow ball was way to low in turn throwing the arse of the boat skywards, that's wot I saw as the prob @ the ramp.

Yeah the boys rang last week david has been taking them out in the goat

Woops Bees is here I better go HIDE

Your a funny man Jumpus. I know i missed a few spots but you needed it back. I will tidy it up after Thursday.....

Is Thursday the big day Bees? I'd better get my arse over there & check it out before it goes.

Best to do the quality control before the paint goes on, gotta be sus of a bloke who builds a boat in a few weeks.

Yes it is Fed.. I'm taking the day off to do the run-around with Jumpus.. However the day turns out, there will be a few laughs along the way. Salty may be there as well. I heard Jumpy locked him in the bait take and is only feeding him at regular intervals

Na salty has got 2 work 2morro he told me that he was the star attraction @ a 100's & 1,000's party being the only Jellybean there

Now just checking the delivery address 4 the goat Bees can ewe confirm it's

4 2 1 Rowan Ave
Mr Bean Park
NSW

Have you decided on a colour yet Bees?

Sed he was goping 2 paint it

Federation Green

Dark green is a pretty fast colour, couple of racing stripes and away you go.

Paint it pink with yellow stripoes.....Nice and bright if you ever get stuck offshore and can double up a the lead mardi gras float named "jumpmy gaydararse"

I'm not Gay storms !

I once dated a bloke who was

R U trying to ask me 4 his ph number ?????????

The boat towed like a dream... Except for the copper following me all the way through Rosebury

Managed to hit 130 on the M7, cause i just wanted to see if it got any wobbles or anything. (There is no use asking Jumpus, cause none of his boats have travelled over 40kph)

Didn't even notice it on the back....

Nothing better than a well set up trailer that tows properly.

Where were ewe 2day Mr Shinny Head ??

Mr Bean wanted 2 use your bathroom

He ended up in the Sea Fairy

I told him the Sea Fairy wasn't a Wet Deck

He said It is Now