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Jumpus GooDarus
Finished costing out the plate & extrusion required not to long ago just B4 I did some sleepies on the loung tongue.gif

To build a 7.1 meter with full Hard Top Twin fuel tanks , Live bait tank etc but not including Bow rails etc

it can be done for just under $ 8 k
catchnrelease
Is that bigger or smaller than the one you've got now?

It's gonna be quite a project! When will it start?
Bees Knees
QUOTE (Jumpus GooDarus @ Aug 27 2008, 07:16 PM) *
Finished costing out the plate & extrusion required not to long ago just B4 I did some sleepies on the loung tongue.gif

To build a 7.1 meter with full Hard Top Twin fuel tanks , Live bait tank etc but not including Bow rails etc

it can be done for just under $ 8


$8.00... That's 3 bottles of V jason.gif Dirt Cheap Jumpus.. laugh.gif
Jumpus GooDarus
Did you get a surprise on the costing Bees ????

Cause I allowed for eveything in that estimate + some leeway

What I didn't allow for was a container of V's

Now that may double the cost of the project laugh.gif laugh.gif
Jumpus GooDarus
QUOTE (catchnrelease @ Aug 27 2008, 08:33 PM) *
Is that bigger or smaller than the one you've got now?

It's gonna be quite a project! When will it start?



I've got a couple of weeks work on a project I've left sitting about for months now so prob in about a month I'll start on the goat.

Yep should be a velly interesting project & the new gopat will be around 2ft longer than the present goat
Jumpus GooDarus
Well I went for another drive down to Nowra 2day after I got a call yesterday with the new amended price of HULL only $29 k

There's alot of work in the cabin + cost of materials & no matter how I do the maths the price gets pushed up to what I was originally quoted up near $ 45 k.

Worked out I can build from scratch a complete boat with cabin etc for around $ 20 k so it looks like it's definately going to be a DIY project.

Have to admit though never liked the old Predators but I was impressed by their new boats & I think Rod will do well with that model.
poly
J.G. will u work from a set of commercial plans or drew up your own. dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif
Jumpus GooDarus
Dont trust myself to design the Hull poly may finish up with sum ting resembling a Star Wars shippy thingy & kk would steal it to travel back to Naboo laugh.gif

I do have a hull in mind & have emailed for more particulars if all pans out this is what I'll be building

http://www.nomadmarinekits.com/catalogue/r...abouts-70ht.htm
poly
very nice lines J.G. max beam 2.6 100mls, to wide for towing with out a permit ???????

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Jumpus GooDarus
Yep !

That's why I emailed the designer, cant see a prob reducing it back to 2500 mm
Spudly
looks the goods jumps.. im guessing you will put your own style cabin on it though..
Jumpus GooDarus
Um not really Rumpus

I kinda like the one in the pic, only thing I would change is the configuration inside.

With my new interest getting back into the Gamefishing scene I'd like to build in all the Electronics so as they wrap around the skipper so they're in full view @ all times.

Also have to build in a compartment for a lap top pc which I cam plug into the GPS reciever etc, it's amazing what you can do with electronics these days.

My Brain has been racing @ 100 mph working out what I really want in the goat, there will be a collapsable tower up top on the cabin was thinkinking dual controls but opted to go for auto pilot instead sick of using Auto Jumpus laugh.gif laugh.gif
Bees Knees
Good looking boat Jumpy... Did you check out the FAQ's

My mates cousin knows some one who can get me cheap plate . Can you just sell us the plans ?

Don't waste our time, we suggest you get your mates cousin to design and build your boat.

We have shipped hundreds of kit boats and have done business with nearly all material suppliers in Australia. The material prices we get are always the most competitive.


Get a price???
poly
QUOTE
With my new interest getting back into the Gamefishing scene I'd like to build in all the Electronics so as they wrap around the skipper so they're in full view @ all times.


this is the type of thing i was talking about, the need to have the office set out the way the owner wonts, to have the electronics placed in this manner should be standed and not an after thought.
J.G I have been looking for a photo of a drew made to hold a laptop set in to the port side of the console on a u.s. made boat. it appeared to be set at waist hight and slid back into a water proof compartment but i can't find it again.
Jumpus GooDarus
QUOTE (Bees Knees @ Aug 31 2008, 07:44 PM) *
Good looking boat Jumpy... Did you check out the FAQ's

My mates cousin knows some one who can get me cheap plate . Can you just sell us the plans ?

Don't waste our time, we suggest you get your mates cousin to design and build your boat.

We have shipped hundreds of kit boats and have done business with nearly all material suppliers in Australia. The material prices we get are always the most competitive.


Get a price???



Yep I'd read that Bees

I worded my email to them in a way where my Q's could be answered.

Think is thee FAQ's keep refereing to Perth but the contact info goes back to the ACT.

There's also a mobile no there & will ring 2morro cause I think there's 2 sides to that site.

poly making a slide out is very easy to do
poly
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poly making a slide out is very easy to do


yep i know that, just didn't know if u had though of it thats all smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
Jumpus GooDarus
I allways pre-think b4 starting anything poly then it's just a matter of working the best option on how to do the job.

All the radio's & stereo etc will be mounted up high in a consul out of the way this time to keep dash free
Bees Knees
It will be interesting to hear what they have to say.. Why dont you use the same persuasion you used on the Trailcraft rep?? laugh.gif laugh.gif That'll work smile.gif
Jumpus GooDarus
Somehow I dont think that guy would be in to much of a hurry to see me again laugh.gif laugh.gif

How Rude turning his back on me laugh.gif laugh.gif

Besides I want a Plate Boat not a Tinny tongue.gif
poly
i have had a good read of there sight and i think they wont to sell u the kit and not just the plans or have i missed something ??????? smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
Jumpus GooDarus
Suggest you go back & read part in regards to **MYLARS** poly

Like I said I think Nomad Marine Kits is a different Co to Schwetz Design

Schwetz Design is located @ Dickson in your part of the woods & I think Nomad is just a contracting co to supply & cut the kits
poly
is this the mob you are refering to J.G.
http://www.nomadmarinekits.com/catalogue/o...rprojects01.htm

I think u will find its the same mob under a different name, hope i am wrong dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif
Jumpus GooDarus
Yeah poly but go to this link &click on MYLARS so as you can understand what I'm on about.

I'm pretty thorough when I research something & went through that many links to find what I wanted it wasn't funny.

http://www.nomadmarinekits.com/assets/home.htm
nimrod
Jumpy. Don't know what you think of them or even if you have had any thought of them, but my next big boat hopefully will be a 6.5m or bigger centre cab.
The cab will be large enough to house all the instruements and a place to lay down for a quick snooze and a bit of protection when needed.
Something like thisClick to view attachment

My very favorite boat. Other then the 32 or 38 foot Steber.
Jumpus GooDarus
Had a looky @ a 6.8 meter centre cab @ the show Frank

Not really my cup of tea asa I like the protection of a full hard top just my style of fushing I guess but can see the benefit of being able to walk around a centre cab esp if YFT fushing.

Yep I favour the Stebers as well fished out of a couple of 41's in my time
Jumpus GooDarus
Got on the Dog & Bone this morn & spoke to the designers @ Schwetz Design.

Seems they've stoped supplying PLANS only & if you want to deal with them you have to buy the kit.

Bit of a Joke when I think about it esp after reading their claim that they can supply the Alloy as cheap as any place you buy from.

Kit for the boat I liked came in @ $ 19,500 + GST + Delivery so you're looking @just over $22,000.

What I thought was a joke was that I'd costed the job @ around $ 8,000 in Alloy & I had all the off cuts as well not the case if you buy the kit.

What also made me laugh was that I was told the fuel tank was also included in that price & when I asked *does it come folded up ?* the answer was NO !

So now you also have to run around & find a Shop with a press to do the folding for you laugh.gif

My view is if I'm going to lay claim to having built my own boat then I'd want to do it from scratch & not go shoping @ an IKEA type store.

Oh yeah no wonder I liked the lines on that boat it's the same as the ones I'd been looking @ down @ predator.

Anyways peeps no more fart arsing about I've now decided it's definately going to be a build job I've stoped @ the idea of geting it built.

Spoke to another designer today & he's mailed a few designs out for me to look @.

If I like them then I'll get a start if not I've twisted his arm to come up with something which I do like
Bees Knees
Your not making it any easier on yourself Jumpy laugh.gif laugh.gif Building one it is then.. smile.gif

I'll get in touch with that mob i mentioned by the end of the week dry.gif
poly
QUOTE (Jumpus GooDarus @ Sep 1 2008, 06:45 PM) *
Got on the Dog & Bone this morn & spoke to the designers @ Schwetz Design.

Seems they've stoped supplying PLANS only & if you want to deal with them you have to buy the kit.

Bit of a Joke when I think about it esp after reading their claim that they can supply the Alloy as cheap as any place you buy from.

Kit for the boat I liked came in @ $ 19,500 + GST + Delivery so you're looking @just over $22,000.

What I thought was a joke was that I'd costed the job @ around $ 8,000 in Alloy & I had all the off cuts as well not the case if you buy the kit.

What also made me laugh was that I was told the fuel tank was also included in that price & when I asked *does it come folded up ?* the answer was NO !

So now you also have to run around & find a Shop with a press to do the folding for you laugh.gif

My view is if I'm going to lay claim to having built my own boat then I'd want to do it from scratch & not go shoping @ an IKEA type store.

Oh yeah no wonder I liked the lines on that boat it's the same as the ones I'd been looking @ down @ predator.

Anyways peeps no more fart arsing about I've now decided it's definately going to be a build job I've stoped @ the idea of geting it built.

Spoke to another designer today & he's mailed a few designs out for me to look @.

If I like them then I'll get a start if not I've twisted his arm to come up with something which I do like

thats a bugger, why not just send him a photo of the one u like and he can send you back the plans
poly
when you think about it $22.000 for the kit is not that bad, here is a compleated boat of 7mts second hand $85.000, new i would think u would have to pay around $95.000 to $100.000 finished and set up with all the fruit. dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif

http://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sa...ts.php?de=42407
Jumpus GooDarus
Actually $22 k is not a good price poly esp for your average Joe Blo

I've allways said that you're not saving anything by DIY & still believe that.

I'm only doing it cause I can & the project will give me something of interest to keep me busy.

If I was still working & had a job to go to then it would cost me more to build than to buy.

Did get some pics in the mail today & meeting with the designer on thursday to to go over the plans & discuss any changes I want
poly
j.g this maybe a bit late, but the bloke that designed this boat could be worth talking


tohttp://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/power-boats.php?de=41930

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poly
j.g this maybe a bit late, but the bloke that designed this boat could be worth talking to should be able to contact him threw the builder.
the designers name is dennis walsh.





http://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sa...ts.php?de=41930

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Bees Knees
QUOTE (poly @ Sep 2 2008, 08:34 PM) *


I like it Poly smile.gif Very nice boat 22.gif
Jumpus GooDarus
I'd be chasing my tail again poly.

Not much can in a plate boat as far as hull design goes.

What makes any boat look good is the cabin layout etc.

Just about every boat on the market these days is a copy of one another
Bees Knees
For people who are interested. These are the study plans. No sizes, but you can see the work that goes into the planning stage smile.gif


Click to view attachment
Jumpus GooDarus
Just went through that Link you sent me Bees.

Think that mob are boat builders & not what I'm after.

I did however look up & chase down that poly posted, traced the designs back to Loftsman who are just designers & not builders awaiting return ph call

This may interest some

http://www.loftsman.com/company.htm

This is there 23ft centre cab

Bees Knees
No worries Jumpus.. I sent the link because they had more information than other sites. That's all.

You cant have too much information..

The Loftsman site / boats look awsome.. I think i had movement hysterical.gif At this stage, i think you have found your helper.

A lot simpler to build as well. Mig, jigsaw and a spring loaded centre punch and your home laugh.gif laugh.gif
Jumpus GooDarus
Yeah Bees it is a good info site.

I'd spent days searching the net for something like this & I nearly didn't even bother when poly posted.

Thought he was taking me on a WILD parrots.gif RIDE laugh.gif
poly
QUOTE (Jumpus GooDarus @ Sep 3 2008, 05:10 PM) *
Yeah Bees it is a good info site.

I'd spent days searching the net for something like this & I nearly didn't even bother when poly posted.

Thought he was taking me on a WILD parrots.gif RIDE laugh.gif


who me, never hysterical.gif hysterical.gif hysterical.gif
glad i could help
poly
here is a shot of a well layed out office, I know j.g. will have his own ideas aney way here it is smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
Jumpus GooDarus
Just got off the ph speaking to that chappy Denis Walsh

Again hit a wall with requesting plans & templates only, seems all these guys want to supply the boat in kit form.

@ least this guy made a bit of sense to me & told me why

It's alot easier & more accurate to do the drawings then program them into a CNC machine for cutting opposed to transfering them to paper templates then to be transfered back onto the Alloy.

Sjape of the Chimes were a worry to me from the word go being so narrow, stretch the template out a few degree's & you're out by 6"s both sides.

Anyways price of kit from this guy was alot more respectable @ $15 k & well worth thinking about

Awaiting email of some drawings @ present
Bees Knees
Well where are they?? Its been hours mad.gif mad.gif
Christos
QUOTE (Bees Knees @ Sep 4 2008, 04:51 PM) *
Well where are they?? Its been hours


Come back tomorrow
Jumpus GooDarus
QUOTE (Bees Knees @ Sep 4 2008, 04:51 PM) *
Well where are they?? Its been hours mad.gif mad.gif



Yeah Well I'm not to Impressed with the guy either Bees

Rang him again this morning asking what happened to the email

His repply was he was just about to send it that was 10 hrs ago.

Still no email & if there's one thing I cant handle it's Bullshiters if thats the service you have to put up with up front

There's no way I'm paying for Plans/Kit up front knowing I'll have to spend all my time chasing delivery

As much as I liked the boat it's a X off my list
Christos
Yeah service has to be better. Sending an email can be long and sometimes hard to type, I have seen this young fellow JG type.

Getting off subject. Well they should have sent the mail and confirmed with a phone call. That way you could have said nice things about them. dry.gif

You really only get one chance to impress the client.
Spudly
I think he already got a new boat, seen him driving it the other day...

salty fil
QUOTE (Christos @ Sep 5 2008, 10:40 PM) *
Yeah service has to be better. Sending an email can be long and sometimes hard to type, I have seen this young fellow JG type.



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Did Christos just do something....

Something i have not seen....

Something against "The Master".....

Did Christos just tell a....

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JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!
salty fil
Thie program running this site is shi7 when it comes to trying to change lettering and sizes and stuff!

You need a fu*ken computer engineering degree to write a fu*ken joke!!!
kkw
That's why I am always so serious.
Bees Knees
QUOTE (Jumpus GooDarus @ Sep 5 2008, 08:10 PM) *
Yeah Well I'm not to Impressed with the guy either Bees

Rang him again this morning asking what happened to the email

His repply was he was just about to send it that was 10 hrs ago.

Still no email & if there's one thing I cant handle it's Bullshiters if thats the service you have to put up with up front

There's no way I'm paying for Plans/Kit up front knowing I'll have to spend all my time chasing delivery

As much as I liked the boat it's a X off my list


Mate, give the guy the benifit of the doubt and be patient.. You haven't exchanged any $$$..
All he is doing at the moment is giving free information . That's more than anyone else has given so far. You like the design and you have time on your side.. This might turn out to be everything you want smile.gif

Have a day off those "V"'s.. they've got you racing everwhere hysterical.gif W.A. time may not be Sydney time....
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