no i have not read that one Fed, how ever i do know that polycraft do insist they be transported on skids.



as u may know the 4.1 i own is best described as a v nose punt with about 5 degrease at the transom, she sits very flat in a turn and is quite capable of dislodging a crew member :o
as u would be aware this type of hull can side slip quite a lot in a turn, this does not happen very much with the poly i am not sure why this is so it maybe the weight sitting the hull a little deeper or it could be the chines at work.

No what poly is trying to get me to admit is that the flex absorbs the shock & what I've been trying to tell him all along I cant answer that cause I dont know how much they flex



Rum tinny's flex as well you may not feel it but they do just to give you a example of alloy flexing on a Jumo Jet 747 the wings will flex then down 28 feet b4 they get to the point where they will shear off.

Strength can be measured in many different ways in plate boats stength comes from the materials tensile factor & can loose some of the strength around welds reason being undercut in the weld & the heat generated can anneal the material as well.

You cant say I'm not fair in the poly boats from what I've read & seen their strength comes from being a one piece unit in other words what you see is what comes out of the mould with all it's spars bulheads etc moulded as one now that's a different type of strength to tensile strength.

As far as flex goes well you show me anything of any length made from any type of plastic that dosen't flex ?

What gets up my nose is how the poly mob claim this flex was designed intentionally to givew a softer ride & that's what I think is the biggest load of CRAP I've ever heard

in many ways it is a good thing u have not been out in a poly J G, it would have been impossible to have had this debate as u may well have agreed with the arguments put forward, i would not try to get u to admit that poly's ride better than a boat of simile size as that would require us to test every boat on the market in that size range, what i was trying to do was get u to admit, is the fact that if something flexes at the point of impact it must there for absorb some of the shock now to carry this forward in to the boating world if a hull is flexing it is absorbing shock and i am quite sure the even your big boat will flex a little if pushed hard enough giving u a slightly better ride

i think it goes more on the depth and shape of the hull,if you get a nice deep "v" hull in glass ,poly or alum .the deeper the "v" the smoother the ride ,like the difference between a flat bottom punt and a "v" nose punt or a full "v",i think they all flex to a certain extent , its like the question which comes first the chicken or the egg

Dont believe my big boat flex's @ all poly if it does it would be that marginal no way you notice it I say this because of the construction it has.

My earlier remarks were in regards to tinny's lighter gauge material & the flex is more apparent in the boats with no gunnels etc.

jason you are refering to deadrise !

And yes the sharper the deadrise the better the boat cuts through the water The Chop has got such a boat but like I've always said no boat is perfect & having such a sharp deadrise you sacrifice stability @ rest.

You cant have everything & when choosing a boat you have to weigh up what suits you the best.

In my case I like fishing platforms & thats why I like the Alloy boats both mine suit my needs esp the bigger boat cause I do gamefishing I like things a certain way belive my gunnel hight is spot on have fished other plate boats & have not liked them @ all.

Another thing I like about mine is that it is very stable @ anchor or drift I can 3 guys on one side handling a fish & there's no fear of boat tipping over that's a very critical point cause so many times I see hero's over crowding boats to me that can be a ccident waiting to happen.

when possum and i first started to look into the buying a boat i sat down a drew up a list of must haves

it is my under standing that the punt styled craft would be the best type for the intended use (IE) fishing enclosed waters beyonce was just as high on the list and was a question put to all dealers on one occasion a dealer told me u could not sink an alloy boat and therefore no need for extra flotation needless to say he did not get my business.
as u all know i tend to push hard when some one knocks polys however they are not perfect and as i see it there are two main short comings with them the hydrodynamics are not as efficient as glass or alloy the other grumble i have is the lack of storage space if polycraft wish to increase market share they will also have to improve the finish on there craft, with boats now being imported from the U. S. and NEW ZEALAND will quickly take over the market, if u are in thinking about a new boat take a long hard look at them as they will give good service for years to come maintainers is very low and there is nothing to rot or corrode

just dont leave it in the sun too long it might melt

from any one else i would have shot them down steve :2guns: :2guns: :2guns:

Think I'd have to say Shark Cats are prob the most stable platform that I've fished out off but like I said earlier for every good point a boat has there's always a counter bad point.

With the cats you have to reach alot further down to reach the water even though gunnel hight inside the boat is relatively low cats handle well going into a sea but aren't that crash hot in a following sea.

I'm not a fan of the Alloy cats & think the glass ones handle better I've given a few Alloy cats a run coming home out @ open sea & left them for dead there could be a couple of reasons for this but most likely one is confidence behind the contols between me & the other skippers, like I said I drive mine hard & when MC Hammers are put down You cant touch this du du du.

poly that dealer was prob refering to a alloy boat having flotation underthe seats to keep it afloat even if it tipped over BUT it was a BLOODY STUPID & UNTRUE REMARK flotation gets water logged thats why on my big boat I pulled it all out & glassed it to make it waterproof b4 putting it all back in & you have to remember that boat has got a wet deck [sealed floor] so even if I hit something with the hull & it split the amount of water that could enter the hull would be limited to empty space available & there's not much empty space down there so yes that boat would be virtually unsinkable.

But I dont think you looked @ that type of boat when that dealer told you Alloy boats are unsinkable

Cats can be downright dangerous in a following sea if they're setup badly or the driver is inexperienced.

Well know you know why I give poly owners such a hard time.

From what I've seen so far everytime a poly owner posts something about their boats that reply comes just about word ford from the polycraft site & to me it seems like you guys a brainwashed into believing exactly what the salemen have told & want ewes to believe.

Hence my spelling of You's is very appropriate, I've yet to actually here from any poly owner ewes their own words to describe their boats.

Maybe I've been around boats longer than most & as you may have guessed I'm very opinuated when it comes to boats but those opinions are mine not what I read somewhere & you cant sit there & tell me every poly boat is the same by that I mean power wise fitout etc.

But every reply from poly owners is virtually identical what gives ??????????????????

Tell that to the captain of the Titanic. :boat:

J G THE WORDS I USED TO DISCRIBE THE BOAT ARE MY OWN, and i can speak from the experience of owning one i tried to point out the shortcomings of the brand in my POST as i doubt very much u will find it in there web sight, and what do i get back u try to tell me i am quoting from the web sight

you may be referring to this remark if so what is wrong with it fact plastic does not rot, fact maintainers is very low i spend more time making sure the trailer is washed down than the boat.





u are right there we were discussing a 3.9 edge tracker and as far as i am concerned that sales man should have been sacked