Wont be the ignition system Frank

Should only be the positive & earth cables coming from the starter motor, as long as they're not bundled up with any other wiring just replace those 2 & all should be OK.

By continually cranking the starter you've heated up copper inside & that's wot would've melted the insulation protecting copper.

Gauge of wire just couldn't handle the heat load produced from the starter free spining

Had there been a fuse then it would've blown B4 wire melted but there's no real need for a fuse esp if bush in starter had not been stuck.

I'd also pull out then apart the starter & give it a real good clean, tis very easy to do & just common sense required

The wiring loom coming out of the CDI unit are melted, I will try and get a photo. The starter is like new condition and will be OK with freeing up.
It was sticky because I didn't use it for a few months.

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Frank think it may be your lucky day a pic tells a 1000 words

Thats not a loom merely a single earth cable that's melted

just trace it all the way back to the starter to make sure no other wires [ around area's it's cable tied ] are melted/fused together if all clear

Just make up a new earth earth, ends on cable in pic are crimped but I much prefer to solder on the bolt hole lugs

Rubbish!
But you already know that... right?

Fed you're doing this again just dont start with the baked beans

BTW Hustler your fuel pump will have a couple of valves in it that should be checked or replaced too.
See if you can get a 'kit' which will have everything you need including gaskets.
Another thing to check is the line that supplies the pressure/vacuum pulse from the crankcase, if it's leaking your pump will be 'weak'. There could also be a pressure limiting device in that line too.
If you intend to do all your own repairs you should get a genuine manual for the motor.

hustler ,i would change the fuel tank fiting too start with as it would be the cheaper way out ,and the fuel pump may be allright ,,jas

More rubbish!

You told me you fixed your so called condensation, I nearly died laughing when you told me what you found was causing it.

Why don't you explain it to everyone here, we all like a good laugh.

Remember,... swapping breather lines, low quality rubber hose etc?

I knew it would come to this !

Seafairy go get the MOP

Mr Shinny Head has let fly again

JASON ... as you are a bloke it must be too early for you on a Sunday morning ... have another cuppa!

Hustler wrote:

JUMPY .....
Ain't going anywhere near that!

you pair drive me ...

Think you've been hanging around Fed to long Seafairy

I knew exactly wot jason meant he was refering to the fitting on the tank itself & hustler was refering to the fitting on end of the fuel line

Personally I would do away with all fitting & opt make a plate same size as wun on tank pick up on existing screw holes

Weld in a new pickup pretruding out past plate enough for the hose & clamp to be secured to



Dont look @ me Fed's your prob not mine

But the air leak was fixed so why would he want to change the tank half of the fitting?
There's no O ring in that half anyway.

Fittings are weak links so why not do away with them so ewe dont get probs in the future

So?

What's that got to do with..

Jumpy. Yes mate I know it's an easy fix, it's more then just the earth wire, a couple of the power wires , one that leads to under the flywheel is also burnt, not as bad as the earth but hope they are still workable. The loom is a sealed unit with the CDI so will need to replace the CDI unit itself to be sure it has no damage.
Just a matter of gertting around to doing something about it. I have got to that point in life that I simply don't do anything these days to do with boats/fishing etc, it's a struggle just to come on these Fishing sites these days, and I am seriously considering selling all my gear, OR giving it away so it will be less Val has to do when I do go to god/ or the other bloke.

no way you will be heading down to hell mate, God need you to keep jumpy in line plus i think old Nick is afraid of you.

Paul

Oh well know wot ewe mean Frank went through that stage a while back.

These days I like to get on top of things else they never get done



As 4 ewe Fed ??

Not your day today is it

I used to have an old signature in one of my forums that said

GOD DON'T WANT ME AND SATIN THINGS I WILL TAKE OVER

1/2 your luck frank

I'm doomed to immortality, I tried pre booking but no place would have me they reckon I'd drive them up the wall

So I'm destined to spend eternity taking the piss out of ewe mere Mortals

hey fishos,

having a litte play with the outboard 2day,
i was playing around with the connection from the hose onto the outboard itself and that was connected properly...

pulled the fuel pump apart.... had a look at put it back together again.... is there any tell tale signs in it that would show its screwed up ???? and exactly how do they work ????

when i sqweez the fuel line bubble and while i sqweez it i look very careful at the fuel filter u see a change in the fuel level in the filter plus about 4 tiny little bubbles ??????

also i noticed that alot of the fuel line fittings and air fittings under the cow arnt really the best so when i replace the fuel pump im going to get some new clamps as all there is on there at the moment are well twisted metal wires...


but after playing with it for a while i started the motor up and ran it for about 15 mins.... after about 5 mins or so you can hear a change in the idle of the motor and a very quick sweez on the fuel line bubble which is alot harder then it was before and its fine fr about another 5 mins....

so i intend on changing the fuel pump as well as new clamps for the air and fuel lins but geez im sratching my head on this

They usually work on pulses from the engine crankcase that move the diaphram in & out, this combined with 2 small valves form a pump.

If ewe saw no rips in the diaphram then I would not replace the fuel pump

Wot I would be doing though is pissing off all the fuel fittings best ewe can

From the tank run the line with squishy squishy bulb you've no choice there

Cant see wots under the cowl but there will be another fuel connection on the outer face of motor

Unscrew it & piss it off there's no need for it wotsoever, through that cavity run your mainline fuel line & connect it to ???????????

Cant remember which is 1st fuel pump of inline filter, whichever it is connect to it

oh make sure ewe replace the inline filter cause if it's got crap in it, may have contributed to the hard starting of motor

i wonder could there be something in the tank that could be restrickting it a little ,,probably not but just a guess ,,jas

the only problem i would have with taking away the fuel line cnnections on the tank itself is that they are 22 litre portable tanks, the red ones...

the inside of the fuel pump looked old but fairly clean...

but i guess it wouldnt hurt putting on a new 1,

but raised my eye brows was the 4 little bubbles i the fuel filter/canister... maybe there is another air leak prior to the pump and or filter... maybe as you said jg the connections,

but as i also said the are about 4 connections in the fuel line before it gets to the pump/ filter im thinking that as there are only held on with a very short piece of wire. not the best connection, so it may have a slight air leak.. which would show why there little bubbles are there. also there may be a little air leak in the hose from the crankcase to the fuel pump.

jason you have a point as i dont know how old the fuel tanks are as they came with the boat... i will also go and buy new fuel tanks

That will weaken the fuel pump.

These yours Benny ???????????????



Thought they were Christos's



Yep piss off as many connections as ewe can



They're not the connections I'm refering to & they should be just fine those connections are hose over a barbed fitting
Tis the crappy unpluggable fuel connectors I'm refering to

nah jg my red things are a little more frilly in the front .. i could put up a pic of me wearing them if you want

arent they called a strap on hustler ,,jas

nah dont need 1 of them mate....

i just like the frilly feeling

I've been told that ewe have a big hairy arse Benny

Is this true ??????

Wot ever ewe do we dont want to see a pic

but you have a pic for everything jg

Hey hustler

I spoke to a mechanic mate of mine in regards to your motor & he said that ewe should carry a hammer around with ewe & bash the carbs if motor wont start

anyway,

went over to caringbah yestaday and got the fuel pump kit,

put that in 2day and once put that in, i was pumping the fuel line bubble and just by pure accident i notice that the black bulge on the fuel line was a little wet... hmm so i had a very close look at found out that there was a small leak, there a few small stream of fuel leaking from the bulge, so i thought well if fuels comming out then air be going in,

well change the bulge over, hooked everything up,

and ran the motor for about 30mins.. not a problem in the world.. so it looks like the dramas are over...FOR NOW

now planning to go fishing on thursday morning,

What is this bulge you talk of Vod?
I'm assuming your fuel line bubble is your primer bulb.

yeah sorry i meant to say the fuel line bubble but instead i had put down bulge...

I hope you have a good day Thursday Hustler.

Hmmmmm

Wot are ewe trying to say Benny ?/

Is this ewe with a Double Bulge ????????



If So

Wot the Heck, wot time are we going fushing on Thursday ??