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Jumpus GooDarus
post Jan 29 2010, 01:56 PM
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dont 4get to check the breather hustler hysterical.gif hysterical.gif


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post Jan 30 2010, 09:36 PM
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Brurry Flacan 2 strokes !

They should all be ZOTTED with a big ZOT GUN hysterical.gif

Tried firing up my 2 stroke today on the wittle wittlest goaty after spending the morn washing & cleaning it up ready to advertise

Twas 6 months ago when last I fired it up & bastard of a thingy didn't want to kick over nor was there any indication of it doing so.

Mind ewes I didn't help from last trip out not having run the carbs dry of fuel either

Out came the spanner pulled out the 3 bleeder bolts, drained the old fuel out , Checked the Breather hysterical.gif hysterical.gif tightened evlly ting back up again, re-primed the carbs &

Vroooom Vroooom she started 1st crank

Think owning 4 bangers on the other goats ewe 4get wot a bitch 2 strokes can be like to start @ times


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post Jan 30 2010, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE (Jumpus GooDarus @ Jan 31 2010, 04:36 PM) *
Brurry Flacan 2 strokes !

They should all be ZOTTED with a big ZOT GUN hysterical.gif

Tried firing up my 2 stroke today on the wittle wittlest goaty after spending the morn washing & cleaning it up ready to advertise

Twas 6 months ago when last I fired it up & bastard of a thingy didn't want to kick over nor was there any indication of it doing so.

Mind ewes I didn't help from last trip out not having run the carbs dry of fuel either

Out came the spanner pulled out the 3 bleeder bolts, drained the old fuel out , Checked the Breather hysterical.gif hysterical.gif tightened evlly ting back up again, re-primed the carbs &

Vroooom Vroooom she started 1st crank

Think owning 4 bangers on the other goats ewe 4get wot a bitch 2 strokes can be like to start @ times



Least you got yours started Jumpy. I went to start my 40 hp a few weeks back after not going for about 4 months, new fuel etc but hit the key and the starter motor just spun around and didnt throw out the bendix and didn't engage the flywheel, so I kept hitting the key hoping it would free up, next thing I know smoke starts pour from the cowling, the wires from igniotion box burnt out, so now boat out of action.


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post Jan 30 2010, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE (nimrod @ Jan 31 2010, 05:37 PM) *
Least you got yours started Jumpy. I went to start my 40 hp a few weeks back after not going for about 4 months, new fuel etc but hit the key and the starter motor just spun around and didnt throw out the bendix and didn't engage the flywheel,



No good frank !

If that happens sum times a few lights hits with a hammer on the amateur gear will free it use sum spray lube as well , if not best to pull starter apart to release stuck bits [which is generally rust buildup]

Depends how many got zotted they are pretty easy to make nu wuns for


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post Jan 30 2010, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE (nimrod @ Jan 31 2010, 05:37 PM) *
Least you got yours started Jumpy. I went to start my 40 hp a few weeks back after not going for about 4 months, new fuel etc but hit the key and the starter motor just spun around and didnt throw out the bendix and didn't engage the flywheel, so I kept hitting the key hoping it would free up, next thing I know smoke starts pour from the cowling, the wires from igniotion box burnt out, so now boat out of action.

Frank I just turn the key and the motor starts,,,,,,,,,, yammy how are good dose it get

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post Jan 30 2010, 11:49 PM
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only because yours is a 4 banger poly all ewe need to do is just touch the key & they start

My wittle 50 hp 2 stroke is a Yammy & it never starts 1st crank when cold


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post Jan 31 2010, 01:34 AM
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hmmmmmmmmm I owned a 50hp merc blue band, it was a while ago was new in those days, Drank petrol like it was grog, roared like a bull, and was a bitch to start, but with a little TLC it was easy, set chock to full on, crank over till it cough's, set chock to half, then crank till it starts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hopefully,,,,,,,,,,,, yep its away now for the rest of the day and will start hot no worry's

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post Jan 31 2010, 01:48 AM
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There's only one better noise than a howling 2 stroke Merc, a purring 4 stroke.


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post Feb 1 2010, 10:34 AM
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well guys, i gt in there and sprayed the carbys with carby cleaner,

its still doing the same thing, im not yet convinced that its the carbys yet... i dunno but i have a feeling its may be a blocked fuel filter..... thinking that its not pushing enough fuel thru the filter but when i push the bubble its forcing fuel thru the filter......... just a thought


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post Feb 1 2010, 12:59 PM
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Spraying the carbs will do jack shit, if anything it'll make them worse

If there was gunk or crap in them , that crap has to go sum where & where do ewe think that sum where is ??

Carbs need to be taken off the motor & cleaned thorouly on a bench simple as that


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post Feb 1 2010, 01:46 PM
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A couple of things to think about Hustler.

If it ran fine at speed then that would mean your fuel system is good from the breather to the carby float bowl and everything in between including the filter & fuel pump because any restriction will show up at speed.

If it started and idled fine after it warmed up then that would mean your carbys are OK too.

You said that nothing had changed but now you have to pump primer bulb to keep it going?????

Something just isn't adding up here.

If you pump the primer bulb up to firm then the motor should start & run for a minute or two on the fuel in the bowls even if the filter is blocked or the pump's not working.
Does it do that???


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post Feb 1 2010, 01:57 PM
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The problem is your topic title get your carb serviced and re-built-problem solved! rolleyes.gif


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post Feb 1 2010, 05:09 PM
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yep thats what it does fed...

i know that im prob gona have to go get the caby's done... but just wanna make sure that thats the problems before i go spending at least $250....


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If you pump the primer bulb up to firm then the motor should start & run for a minute or two on the fuel in the bowls even if the filter is blocked or the pump's not working.
Does it do that???

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yep thats what it does fed...

Then the last thing I'd do is get the carbys done unless Storms will reimburse you if it doesn't fix it.
You need to check the fuel pump is pumping fuel as I described earlier.


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post Feb 1 2010, 10:11 PM
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yep ..
well ive got the mechnic comming out on friday to suss it out and fix the dam thing.... enof is enof i wanna go fishing....

anyway thanks for all ya help fellow fishos..

il will let ya all know friday night what the hell was wrong with it......


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How did it go Hustler?


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post Feb 5 2010, 05:14 PM
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yes fed you are wright just this once, it is time for an update.
come on hustler hows it going

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I think there is a Seed stuck in the needle...

Its so hard to diagnose engine problems without seeing it, thus why i haven't commented...

Start with the basic's, fuel line, filter, then move on, pull the carby off, clean it.. check the needle isnt blocked up, check the floats. Check your electrics..

If you havnt played with them much before, just take it to a mech and get it done, if you know what your doing or have a bit of nouse, buy a rebild kit and do it properly.. no point half doing the job and somthing else going wrong later.

Carby's can be such temperamental things...
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post Feb 6 2010, 12:04 AM
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well i got the mechanic out today to have a look at fix it....

well first of all the fuel line connection where it connects to the fuel tank was faulty ( after market ) and had an air leak which was
part of the problem...



but after all is said and done it turns out that its the fuel pump.....

so on monday going to organise a new fuel pump.....


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Should be a cheap fix Hustler, good one.


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