Ideal Boat ? Options

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Thought this Q might arouse a bit of interest

Was out last sunday in the bay & could not help noticing the amount of tinny's on the water reckon they out numbered glass boats by 8 : 2

Also saw a few plastic bags floating in the water & I assumed they were polycraft in the making cause they looked like they were having a soft ride

pulling your leg there poly

OK here's the Question

We're talking about traler boats not LardydeDah boats

You may even list your fantasy goat

We all fish different so go ahead & list what motor/'s & features you would like in your Dream Goat as well

[Spudly]

I am starting to lean towards a glass boat that I can use as a fmaily boat as thats th way I see things going in the next few years.

Cruise Craft Explorer 625, All Accessories With larged Capacity 4 stroke it can have
Rod holders, Bait board, Bait tank, Fridge and Ice Box, All the Gear..

Very Nice looking boat, Capable of fishing outside as well as a nice cruise of the bay or pulling the tube with the kids, in the future! haha

[poly]

this is quite a question J G, as u know i am more than happy with the poly as u are with the big boat.
if i were to change any thing it would be to add a bit more storage up front that way i could use one of the 90lt bins as a live well.
now if we are talking fantasy boats just stretch out the 4.1 to about 6mts ad a cuddy cab and a 150hp four stroke a couple of 15kg outfits a good days fishing and that will do me



This post has been edited by poly: Sep 18 2007, 01:20 AM

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Like I said think this will be an interesting topic.

Rum my Sparky has got that Landcruisercraft you like he's just had a 140 HP 4 stroke Honda undoo fitted to it

[Spudly]

yep, If i won lotto tomorrow, Id have one, with the rockets filled with
4 tiagra 30's and my kingy snapper and light gear nicley stowed up under the front.
The esky would be full, and I would be off, no stopping me!!

you would probably never hear from me again because i would be to busy making love to my boat, and the nwe V8 Crusier in the shed next to it.

[xtosea]

My Dream boat would be a Sea Swirl Striper in the 23ft Range with enclosed cabin, or maybe an Arvor.
THat Cruisecraft, i have fished on one,"YankeeDoodle" and must say it is underpowered with a 150 4stroke Honda, and is also ass heavy? It was on the second top hole the engine, then they moved it to the last hole as it was cavitating, it stopped that but now is bum heavy. THey are an awesome boat though.
If iwas to get a plate boat it would be a Noble Super V, these things are awesome, ive seen them in action, noteably the boat "Billistic", andthey have pulled some really nice fish out of her, Marlin to 700lb's out of a 6m Plate!
Kamil

[SUMOFISHIN]

Yes I can picture my dream boat in my head at this very moment, by the time I finish writing this I should have the pictures developed, My dream boat should have plenty of fishing room all round, it should have a nice cleaning and eating table and a nice kitchen, yes thats right it should be set up like my tent.
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[Spudly]

good work sumo!! hahahaha

that kinda looks like a ladidah boat! hahahaha

:drop the daks:

[catchnrelease]

As a first ever boat, a Makocraft Frenzy 470.

-Makocraft Frenzy 470
-75HP Evinrude E-Tec

Extra Features:
-100L tournament live well
-Minn-Kota Riptide electric motor
-Lean seat
-Hydraulic steering upgrade

This is more realistic. Good thing is it comes with all the extra goodies already. Good for bream and other estuary work along with zooming around the harbour and if I'm lucky and experienced enough, get out offshore to the FAD's or something. ;)

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BUT

If I was gonna go crazy on all of you guys, I would go a Haines Hunter Patriot 800. B)

-Haines Hunter Patriot 800
-Twin 225HP Evinrude E-Tec's

Extra Features:
-Outriggers
-Live bait tank
-Deck wash
-Toilet
-Kill tank
-All the other fancy pants accesories that make life easier

Yep, full blown game vessel and also an offshore rig for jigging, bottom bashing ect. But also a bit sportier and more deck space for mates and multiple lines out. Pity it costs so many $$$.

[poly]

young catch u should do your research with a bit more vigor as i fell this is a much better vessel try reading up on edencraft, hear is a taste.

[catchnrelease]

Is that thing made out of plastic too???

Only heard pro's from the patriot series. What's wrong with them?

[Jumpus GooDarus]

SUMO ! you bloody Ninkompoopy the sign said *trailer boats*

Bloody Malteso's

poly you're a Mini SUMO

The formular 223 is a Edencraft

They both come out of the same mould

Haines sold the mould to Edencraft

[SUMOFISHIN]

Sorry Jumpus I forgot to include a shot of the TRAILER.

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[xtosea]

The formula 233 is a top boat too! Twin Verados on it.
I hate etecs!!!
Kamil

[poly]

J G why do u think i told him to look more closely, u are quite wright they do come out of the old haines molds the difference is the Edencraft are much better built and have none of the crap u would get with most glass boats.
Eden seem to be building for the fisherman and not the family boater, i will be taking a 6mt for a test in the next couple of months, it may not be as good as the poly in the same size but i will post my impressions as honestly as i can
Centre length 6.2 M
Max beam 2.4 M
Hull dead rise 22 °
Hull draft 0.35 M
Cockpit area 6.0 M²
Fuel tank capacity 240 L
Hull dry weight (approx) 1100 Kg
Outboard power (Max) 1 x 250 HP
or 2 x 130 HP

[Jumpus GooDarus]

J G why do u think i told him to look more closely, u are quite wright they do come out of the old haines molds the difference is the Edencraft are much better built and have none of the crap u would get with most glass boats.

I cant see how you can say that ??

The 233 was originally designed as a race hull & quite a few race them as off shore racers

I know 2 guys who own the 233 one of them is actually up for sale twin 200 hp Yams on the back.

Now if both boats come out of the same mold how can you say that Edencraft build a better boat than Haines did ???????????????

The Chop took delivery of his edencraft not that long ago & yep it's a nice boat but not my cup of tea.

Not even going to attempt to reply to your comments Edencraft versus polycraft

[quintrex101]

i like the arvor, seen one of these boats at the boat show, what a weapon, its a good boat,


or the makocraft 610 CANYON RUNNER and a big 150hp the one and only yamaha 4 stroke

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[Smelly]

Well i'm not normaly one to dream,usualy just stick to setting goals that are reasonable and acheivable.

That said my ideal boat would be the one i have now which is a 4.1mtr runabout that a previous owner has done up like a Barra boat,raised casting deck with storage and tiller steer.At the mo i run alittle 6hp on a bracket so i can get into rooly,rooly shallow water.Not much chop in the big rivers but ideal for the little lakes i set it up for.

My poor little boats been neglected for a while now so to make it my ideal boat i would:


Repaint

Repower (40hp)

Maybe fit a side consol

Fit a Lecky

Fix the trailer

and she'd be sweet

Now if i was dreaming,i'd have me little boat plus a nice big Cat, as i get abit grey around the gills when go'n outside,and it must have a thumper sound system.Of course it'd be called 'Smelly Wet Pussy'


SMELLY

[poly]

Now if both boats come out of the same mold how can you say that Edencraft build a better boat than Haines did ???????????????

J G i would have to say that when Hains were using those molds, some of the best boats in there size and type were being built to worlds best practice wright hear in oz BUT THEY NO LONGER USE THOSE MOLDS and that is why i suggested young catch look a bit further.

Not even going to attempt to reply to your comments Edencraft versus polycraft

why don't we leave that one for another time and another thread where i can debate u to a stand still again :TazSpin2:

[SUMOFISHIN]

After some searching I found POLY"S DREAM BOAT

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[poly]

why Sumo THANK U SO MUCH the only way i can convince J G that a poly will last a life time
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[Jumpus GooDarus]

Well peeps I just got word that the Chi Nee Government strongly influenced by

Emporer Nazzi Gorrea

Has just placed a huge order with Polycraft, they have ordered a flatilla of 4.1 meter polycraft fitted with 50 hp 4 stroke Yamaha's

These boats are to be used on the Great Wall of China

To Keep the RABBITS Out

Apparantly rabbits dont like to eat plastic

[poly]

J G, u are a ripper do u know how hard it has been for me to argue against peeps saying that rabbits eat poly's i can now referee them to u as u have the facts and can put them strait, oooh by the way that should have been 40hp only a showoff would put on a 50hp tiller steer :TazSpin2:

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[poly]

:offtopic: we are :offtopic: :offtopic: :offtopic: how did that happen



tell us about your dreams



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[Jumpus GooDarus]

Not My Bloody Fault !

You Got Me Started on Those Bloody Poly's Again

[CATCH22]

i like that one summo....any way who cares as long as it floats and you dont get wet .......same as cars all get you from a to b ....just a different ride or drive ......tell some one who cares jumpy just because ya grand father dies and left ya 10 million dollars it doesnt make your boat float better than our ....so stick that up yapipe and smoke it..............................

[Spudly]

Ouch!!

[poly]

double Ouch :jawdrop:

[Jumpus GooDarus]

i like that one summo....any way who cares as long as it floats and you dont get wet .......same as cars all get you from a to b ....just a different ride or drive ......tell some one who cares jumpy just because ya grand father dies and left ya 10 million dollars it doesnt make your boat float better than our ....so stick that up yapipe and smoke it..............................

Well Well Well if it aint MOTOR MOUTH professing to be a Proffesor on the topic of boats

ps] Just as well as I haven't told to many of your boating exploits Dave cause everyone would start laughing @ you

Now if you could only harvest the Energy which comes out of your mouth & fasten a prop to it then stick your head into the water out behind your transom you wouldn't need an outboard would you ??????????

You'd be propel,ling your boat on speech alone

[catchnrelease]

Jumpy, what's YOUR dream goat?

Frankly, I'd be happy with anything...as long as it has no holes and get's me around, I'm content.

[kkw]

I had a spare 25hp motor left over, after replacing it with a 40hp. Designed this boat for some trolling along the flats, but can't get it to keep the bow up when I throttle back. Any suggestions? I am willing to swap it for a 5m tinnie or poly, if anyone is interested. Also throw in a poly Sorry Poly - just kidding around - as usual.

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[Jumpus GooDarus]

Dont think I have a dream boat in mind quite happy with the 2 that I've got

The bigger one will get me anywhere & back has heaps of room & is fitted out the way I want rides well & will leave most boats in it's wake in any sort of sea.

Did have a larger moored game boat but like all different types of boats they all have their goods & bad points

With any moored boats you need reliable drew & thats mission impossible

With the 23 ft'er I have now I have no probs whatsoever taking it out on my own & it's got the hp to get me to & fro in no time I've made the comment I always feel safe in it & no truer words have ever come from my mouth.

Good example was last wednesday when we came home from 32 miles out initially took it easy cause it was a bit heeby geeby out there but still managed a comfortable ride sitting on around 15 - 17 knots but once in a bit closer seas settled a bit & down went the throatles.

Now in this boat you cannot broach it runs true the hardtop keeps you dry as & protects all the electronics the boat has very little if any maitanence exept if I get another brain explosion & want to do something else on it it has every gizzmo [ not jasons dog ] on board

Now That's My Ideal Boat

I dont have to dream I've got one & not because I own it either moreso the way it is setup think that plays a big part in having a boat & a ideal boat.

Even with all the gizzmo's [ again not jasons dog ] it still one drawback !

It dosen't allow me to fish shallow places & it's a bit on the hard side to fish SP's or lures & thats the reason I have the smaller tinny it lets me fish places the bigger doat cant having said that if I had to choose only being able to own one boat it would definately be the bigger plate boat no Q's asked

[poly]

now now J G u are not playing the game, we all know how much u think of your tin thing's but one day u may just have to replace one or both heven forbid so put some thorght in to it and impress us with your insight :TazSpin2:

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Spent alot of time & $$$$'s rebuilding my big boat poly think it will be good for anothe decade or so & dont know what my fishing habits will be like in the future.

But if I did have to replace it in the near future I'd have to look around to see whats available did go to this years boat show & was not overly impressed & it's not my arrogance talking either.

I would go plate boat again I'd look @ specs not just material used I'm talking gunnel hight again I would go wet deck & hard top no Q's about that.

After doing reseach & going for a test drive with me behind the wheel I'd order unpainted hull only & fit it out the way I want it.

[poly]

But if I did have to replace it in the near future I'd have to look around to see whats available did go to this years boat show & was not overly impressed & it's not my arrogance talking either.

ok that's what we would like to see u do, i am quite sure what u say about your boat lasting well in to the future is a true statement.
But u are coming home after a days fishing and the boat is hit by a semi trailer at the lights, its back is broken what now, the new one will have to be alloy, will it be a 6mt?? 7+mt??? have a look out there my friend will it come from the west like the old one or will u go to a manufacturer on this side of this gr8 land please let us know what u find.
oooooh and have fun if u must but we await your findings with baited breath ;) ;) ;)

[catchnrelease]

ok that's what we would like to see u do, i am quite sure what u say about your boat lasting well in to the future is a true statement.
But u are coming home after a days fishing and the boat is hit by a semi trailer at the lights, its back is broken what now, the new one will have to be alloy, will it be a 6mt?? 7+mt??? have a look out there my friend will it come from the west like the old one or will u go to a manufacturer on this side of this gr8 land please let us know what u find.
oooooh and have fun if u must but we await your findings with baited breath ;) ;) ;)

Yep, or say your boat sinks off browns whilst on fire and exploding into bits and pieces and then those bits and pieces are taken to different areas by birds and all the electronics and floating bits are eaten by tuna, and those tuna are then eaten by makos.

OK.....NOW what boat and engine do you want knowing $$$ is no object and neither is storage or whatever. ;)

[Spudly]

Still sticking with my landcrusier craft, However If i was to go fishing only boat it would be plate, I would get something in the 6-7m range, Not sur on brand, but would probably go a custom fitout.

Was in the predator factory and they had a great looking setup with hardtop and cabin with door and a massive rear deck, looked awesome, was being setup as a dive charter boat but could easily be changed into a fishing rig.

[Smelly]

Please take this the right way.....but

You blokes should be careful what you say,even if it is imagined!!!!

Karma is a weird thing.

The missus and i once told a lie to get me a night off work,by saying that someone we knew was in an acco,lo and behold the missus's best friend died in a car crash the next day :o .

Now i know you's don't mean anything,it's just harmless fun BUT things have a way of happening,i know if anything did happen 'KNOCK ON WOOD',you's would have to live with the guilt just like me and the Missus have :huh: .

Jumpy take care mate,just for a coupla days !!!
SMELLY

ps,i don't mean to offend anyone .but i was'nt laughing when i read that stuff,now maybe if ya's mentioned DIN......arrrr thats not nice i'll stop right there!

[catchnrelease]

Please take this the right way.....but

You blokes should be careful what you say,even if it is imagined!!!!

Karma is a weird thing.

The missus and i once told a lie to get me a night off work,by saying that someone we knew was in an acco,lo and behold the missus's best friend died in a car crash the next day :o .

Now i know you's don't mean anything,it's just harmless fun BUT things have a way of happening,i know if anything did happen 'KNOCK ON WOOD',you's would have to live with the guilt just like me and the Missus have :huh: .

Jumpy take care mate,just for a coupla days !!!
SMELLY

ps,i don't mean to offend anyone .but i was'nt laughing when i read that stuff,now maybe if ya's mentioned DIN......arrrr thats not nice i'll stop right there!

Good thing I don't have a boat then! ;)

[Fed]

Now if you wanted a boat to fish creeks, rivers, bays and offshore plus family cruising and activities that was cheap to run and easy to tow what would you choose?

Me, I'd be thinking pressed alloy four stroke, maybe something like a Quintrex 520 Coast Runner.

Can anyone come up with a better allround alternative?

[SUMOFISHIN]

Me, I'd be thinking pressed alloy four stroke, maybe something like a Quintrex 520 Coast Runner.

Can anyone come up with a better allround alternative?

Fed you must have Big creeks and rivers at Milperra, If you were in the bush you would realise that you wont fit a 520 Quinnie in any of the creeks or rivers, the last thing that you would want is the weight of a four stroke on the back, most of the time any more than 6" of draft and you're in trouble. By the way if you were around here you would not want a Quintrex on our waterways as it is a known fact that this year alone no less than four Quinnies that I know of have been sent back to the factory for Splitting beside the welds.

[Fed]

I doubt there will ever be an allround boat that would be good at both ends of the scale, it's always a compromise.
I'm thinking something that will get into 2 or 3 feet of water but still be OK 15 miles out to sea.

Of course there's always MY boat.

[SUMOFISHIN]

Well here is a pic of my new Snyper only 4.35mtrs No Pod and not a bit of wasted space, has a draft of only 6" and that's with me onboard have tested it well in Rivers, Estuarys, and inland Creeks and Dams, Probably one of the best inland boats I have ever seen, this weekend I will be testing it up to 30klms Offshore, Fishing for Big Reds in the Spencer Gulf I will let you know how it handles the Oceans. and if you want any fish Go Get Your Own.


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[SUMOFISHIN]

Jumpus haven't you got anything better to do? I thought you still had work to finish at the factory,
NOW no one knows how good looking I am.

[Jumpus GooDarus]

I saw the pic & couldn't help myself SUMO

[catchnrelease]

I've seen relatively small boats going out to browns. Maybe something like a 5.5 metre bowrider? That'll get around estuarys, although not super shallow stuff, easily get offshore and if conditions are good then get all the way out to tuna grounds like browns.

[Majed]

Sorry guys my camera broke and i wasn't able to take a picture of the trailer...but he is my dream boat....

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[SUMOFISHIN]

Sorry guys my camera broke and i wasn't able to take a picture of the trailer...but he is my dream boat....

Majed I don't know how it got to be your dream boat, I wouldn't get on it awake let alone Dreaming, look at the guy on it he looks very worried.

[Smelly]

Hey Majed,thats cool



Now if i could just build a Valiant one,i do have a spare wagon laying around.




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[poly]

hear u go SUMO now all the girls will know how good looking u are

[poly]

this is one thread i did think would get a lot of attention, as i am sure most of us have aspirations to one day have a bigger and better boat.
my little poly dose the job i bought her for rivers and bays are on problem for the boat but there is no way i will take her offshore.
when i get the money together for a larger boat one of the brands i will be looking at is hooker from the states and with the strength of the OZY DOLLAR at the moment it is a good time to have a think about imported boats.
the main feather of the hooker range is the fact that they are built with out the use of timber, so no chance of osmosis.
hear are a couple of photos of the 5mt pro fisherman hope u like.





hear is the link to hooker boats
http://www.hookerboats.com/

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[hustler57]

hmm personally id say as a fishing boat i couldnt go past a new shark cat

but as a pleasure boat id have to hope for a 30 or 40 odd foot bertram