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post Feb 6 2010, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE (Fed @ Feb 2 2010, 12:40 PM) *
Then the last thing I'd do is get the carbys done unless Storms will reimburse you if it doesn't fix it.
You need to check the fuel pump is pumping fuel as I described earlier.


The only re-imbursement will be a big foot in your mouth fed when the engine finally gets to the mechanic and he resolves the issue, never know it might be the breather still rolleyes.gif


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post Feb 6 2010, 12:31 AM
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You should take your foot out of your own mouth Storms, go back & read the posts mate.


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post Feb 6 2010, 01:47 AM
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Have to admit that you're all over the place Benny & it's velly hard making sense of anything I'll just take sum quotes from your replies

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but after got it started it ran like a dream,


That comment shoots down your mechanic's analasis of the fuel pump prob he's claiming

Fuel pumps work off a diaphram & if that diaphram is torn/ripped then no fuel would've been reaching the carbs so cant see how it could've been running like a dream

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as they fuel line bubble isnt staying hard....


That comment indicates to me that your fuel pump is working just fine sum ting is sucking the fuel dont ewe agree ???

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well first of all the fuel line connection where it connects to the fuel tank was faulty ( after market ) and had an air leak which was
part of the problem...


Now that comment makes sense to me

On any of my boats I refuse to have any form of fuel connection , tis direct fuel hose all the way

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but after all is said and done it turns out that its the fuel pump.....

so on monday going to organise a new fuel pump.....


It's only 4 screws on the pump Benny, undo them & have a look @ the Diaphram B4 ewe go out & buy a new wun

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post Feb 6 2010, 02:01 AM
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Whilst I'm here

Hey Frank did ewe sort out the melted wires on your starter ????????????


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post Feb 6 2010, 02:02 AM
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yes and your point is jg ???

everything that i have posted on here have been of what has occured....

the mechanic that said to me that it was the carby was a mechanic that happen to be down there at the moment i was at the ramp trying to start the engine..... not the mechanic that i use normally...

apparently the fuel pump is working fine at high revs its just at idle... (well when i replave the fuel pump we will find out..)


JG i am known for often talking in riddles and all over the place but that comes from previous work experiences and training.

jg please dont try and make sense to much of what i say as ive had people for the last 30 years trying to make sense of me and they are still trying..


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post Feb 6 2010, 02:23 AM
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I've got to agree, none of it quite adds up Hustler but a fuel pump kit or just a diaphram won't cost much if only to rule that out as a problem.

Storms is a turkey, he's on the fringe of the trade and still believes 2 x 25A circuit breakers connected in series results in a 50A breaker, some people you just can't help. Not sure what his breather problem is about though.


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post Feb 6 2010, 02:32 AM
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well we will all find out once i have replaced the fuel pump...

so far we have found that the connection from the fuel line to the tank had an air leak... as well as the fuel pump,

so once the fuel pump has been replaced il take it out for a spin and see what happens.. if it keeps happening then il call him back out again
and investigate it further.. but if that happens then we know for sure what it isnt,

but i agree that it doesnt make a lot of sence but as i said what is and has been happening i have told you all about...

you ask for an update so i give ya one....


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post Feb 6 2010, 02:44 AM
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QUOTE (hustler57 @ Feb 6 2010, 09:02 PM) *
everything that i have posted on here have been of what has occured....



jg please dont try and make sense to much of what i say as ive had people for the last 30 years trying to make sense of me and they are still trying..



That's why I dont Jumpus in & assume benny

I apply logic & after going back & reading all that you've written it just didn't make sense & I think your mechanic is wrong assuming it's a fuel pump prob

I'm pretty handy around motors & can get to the prob most of the time but there's allways wun which will stump me, that's why my Uams are in pieces @ present, they dont need to be but I wanted to as I like my motors to be running spot on

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Storms is a turkey, he's on the fringe of the trade and still believes 2 x 25A circuit breakers connected in series results in a 50A breaker, some people you just can't help.


Yes Fed I know exactlyt wot ewe mean, good example is when your Shinny Head starts doing 360's [like trhe chick from the movie The Exocist] every time I try & convince ewe that condensation really does occur in fuel tanks ewe wally hysterical.gif hysterical.gif
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post Feb 6 2010, 02:50 AM
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QUOTE (Jumpus GooDarus @ Feb 6 2010, 09:01 PM) *
Whilst I'm here

Hey Frank did ewe sort out the melted wires on your starter ????????????


Was the ignition block CDI or whatever you call it. NO haven't done anything about it yet, still hanging off the motor by what wires are left.
The cdi unit itself don't look burnt it's just the wires leading to it.
The starter I think will work OK with a couple of turns of the bendix.
Havn't looked at it since it happened just put it in the back shed and closed the doors.


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i also like my motors to be in perfect running order...

im not sure if my mechanic is right or wrong on saying its the pump but after the new pump is put in and i take it out for a test run well then il know,

time will tell


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post Feb 6 2010, 03:21 AM
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QUOTE (nimrod @ Feb 6 2010, 09:50 PM) *
Was the ignition block CDI or whatever you call it. NO haven't done anything about it yet, still hanging off the motor by what wires are left.
The cdi unit itself don't look burnt it's just the wires leading to it.
The starter I think will work OK with a couple of turns of the bendix.
Havn't looked at it since it happened just put it in the back shed and closed the doors.



Wont be the ignition system Frank

Should only be the positive & earth cables coming from the starter motor, as long as they're not bundled up with any other wiring just replace those 2 & all should be OK.

By continually cranking the starter you've heated up copper inside & that's wot would've melted the insulation protecting copper.

Gauge of wire just couldn't handle the heat load produced from the starter free spining

Had there been a fuse then it would've blown B4 wire melted but there's no real need for a fuse esp if bush in starter had not been stuck.

I'd also pull out then apart the starter & give it a real good clean, tis very easy to do & just common sense required


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QUOTE (Jumpus GooDarus @ Feb 6 2010, 10:21 PM) *
Wont be the ignition system Frank

Should only be the positive & earth cables coming from the starter motor, as long as they're not bundled up with any other wiring just replace those 2 & all should be OK.

By continually cranking the starter you've heated up copper inside & that's wot would've melted the insulation protecting copper.

Gauge of wire just couldn't handle the heat load produced from the starter free spining

Had there been a fuse then it would've blown B4 wire melted but there's no real need for a fuse esp if bush in starter had not been stuck.

I'd also pull out then apart the starter & give it a real good clean, tis very easy to do & just common sense required


The wiring loom coming out of the CDI unit are melted, I will try and get a photo. The starter is like new condition and will be OK with freeing up.
It was sticky because I didn't use it for a few months.

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Frank think it may be your lucky day a pic tells a 1000 words

Thats not a loom merely a single earth cable that's melted

just trace it all the way back to the starter to make sure no other wires [ around area's it's cable tied ] are melted/fused together if all clear

Just make up a new earth earth, ends on cable in pic are crimped but I much prefer to solder on the bolt hole lugs


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post Feb 6 2010, 01:34 PM
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Gauge of wire just couldn't handle the heat load produced from the starter free spining

Rubbish!
But you already know that... right?


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Fed you're doing this again just dont start with the baked beans hysterical.gif hysterical.gif
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post Feb 6 2010, 01:43 PM
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BTW Hustler your fuel pump will have a couple of valves in it that should be checked or replaced too.
See if you can get a 'kit' which will have everything you need including gaskets.
Another thing to check is the line that supplies the pressure/vacuum pulse from the crankcase, if it's leaking your pump will be 'weak'. There could also be a pressure limiting device in that line too.
If you intend to do all your own repairs you should get a genuine manual for the motor.


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hustler ,i would change the fuel tank fiting too start with as it would be the cheaper way out ,and the fuel pump may be allright ,,jas


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condensation really does occur in fuel tanks

More rubbish!

You told me you fixed your so called condensation, I nearly died laughing when you told me what you found was causing it.

Why don't you explain it to everyone here, we all like a good laugh.

Remember,... swapping breather lines, low quality rubber hose etc? hysterical.gif hysterical.gif hysterical.gif


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I knew it would come to this !

Seafairy go get the MOP

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QUOTE (jasonb @ Feb 7 2010, 08:44 AM) *
hustler ,i would change the fuel tank fiting too start with as it would be the cheaper way out ,and the fuel pump may be allright ,,jas


JASON ... as you are a bloke it must be too early for you on a Sunday morning ... have another cuppa!

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