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hustler57
hey fellow fishos,

what does everyone reckon are the best outboards,

a 2 stroke, a 4 stroke or an etec,

i have a 2 stroke but am going to update to a 4 stroke lat this year
SUMOFISHIN
My recommendation is E TEC more Power, faster Response, Less Weight, Half the amount of Moving parts, and extremely fuel efficient for a 2 Stroke.
hustler57
im bagging e tecs but ive only spoken to about 3 or 4 guys who have e tecs and they have all had problems with them, 2 of them had to get the injectors done already, while i do have a 2 stroke im getting a 4 stroke later this year
Jumpus GooDarus
I said it B4 & I'll say it again

I Wouldn't give a E-TEC to a Jap on Anzac Day

hustler you're making the right move in my books people can crap on all they like about these E-TECS performance etc etc but when it boils down to CRUNCH TIME they're are still a Bloody 2 Stroke no different to motor bikes if you've ever had a motor cross bike how often did you have to rebuild it ???

I wanted to buy 4 Strokes 12 odd years back when they 1st came out back then only Honda had the 4 bangers & the biggest HP motor was a 40 HP way to small for my Goat so I ended up buying a pair of 85 hp 2 stroke yammy's instead now there's a pair of 115 hp 4 Strokes on the back
hustler57
yep, im no guru on e tecs but if there are less moving parts on an e tec does that mean that there is more pressure on those parts ??

and as much as i love 2 strokes , they will slowly be thased out in the future, ive been told that you will only be able to buy a new 2 stroke for the next 5-10 years,

but you cant go past the huge amount of pluses +++++++ that ive heard about with 4 strokes,
hustler57
and just another thing with the e tecs.. if some thing no matter how small goes wrong with them , then you have to have a laptop handy to fix them
SUMOFISHIN
You blokes have no I dea of the engineering of two stroke engines, Maybe people have had problems with E TECs but how many of these problems have been MECHANICAL, electronics are also used on four Strokes, and Benny there is no more stress or preasure exerted to a two stroke, it has no valves, no, camshafts, no timing belts, no valve springs or lifters, just a set of pistons and rods travelling at the same pace of a four stroke and actually doing less work, it is not the engine design that has problems it's all that electronic junk that is not working properly when they have a problem, and GUESS what the four strokes have all that electronic injection junk too.
Jumpus GooDarus
Beg Your Pardon SUMO ?? laugh.gif

I'm going to ask you one simple question SUMO ??

Most 2 Strokes are lucky to last 800 hrs before they need a rebuild whereas a $ Stroke will last you 5000 hrs

Why would you want to buy a @ Stroke ????????????

Is it because

a] you like mixing oil in with your fuel
b] you like the 2 Stroke fumes
c] you like the oil residue all over your boat
d] you're going deaf & need the noisier 2 Stroke to make sure you can hear the motor running
e] you like the idea of fouling plugs
catchnrelease
Well I may have almost zero experience with outboards or boats, but I have ridden in both 2 stroke yammys and 4 stroke hondas along with other brands, and from a passengers point of view the honda was better. Of course fuel and maintanence come into it, along with other things, but for amount of noise and fumes, along with comfort, I prefered riding in a 4 stroke.

Never ridden in an E-Tec.

Just my 2 cents. ;)
Spudly
I like noise and fumes!!

2 strokes have a power advantage,
4 stroks have a fuel advantage..

Its horses for courses...

If i had my choice id get a 2st Yammy!
Fed
I'd be giving some thought to your weight problem Hustler.
SUMOFISHIN
JUMPUS, The only way you're gonna get 5000 hours out of your four strokes without a rebuild it to Lock them up in your Factory. Hell your lucky to get 5000 hrs out of a STAINLESS Trailer.
Jumpus GooDarus
Boats can handle the extra weight geez I added an extra 140 kg when swapping over to 4 Strokes it may have lowered the arse a touch @ rest but did nothing to hinder the boats performance when under way.

If you're refering to hustlers boat only from what I picked up from the shoutbox the other week then yes he'd have to do a bit of weight transfer but should be doing that anyway by the sounds of it he's got way to much weight aft
Spudly
My dads old boat had a 25hp 2st Jonno, The boat went great!
The new boat is .1m bigger, and a 30hp Honda 4st..

The prop is MUCH smaller, and th motor has no where near as much pull..

I would much prefer a 30hp/40hp 2 stroke on this boat.

The engine is much quieter, however i feel performance outweights the noise level in this particular case.

However on a boat like jumpys, where he can put 2 large capacity engines, I think 4st is the way to go!
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