Fed
Mar 29 2011, 01:20 AM
Why does my battery (12V, 6 cells) have 11 plates?
I just don't get it?
NetPez
Mar 29 2011, 01:40 AM
jesus fed my name is pez , im a mere mortal you had better ask
a higher being these questions......
maybe Jumpy can answer them
Jumpus GooDarus
Mar 29 2011, 02:11 AM
Probably cause Fed cant count
Fed
Mar 29 2011, 01:11 PM
To my way of thinking a 12V battery should have 12 plates 2 for each cell, they're really only 6 battery cells wired in series.
It's got me beat how they work with 11 plates but get this, my boat battery has got 13 plates???
I just don't get it.
kkw
Mar 29 2011, 01:56 PM
My batteries just sit in a plastic box. Why do you need plates? I don't get it.
Jumpus GooDarus
Mar 29 2011, 02:29 PM
Shinny is refering to boat batteries not rock shoe plates kk
Spudly
Mar 29 2011, 03:22 PM
to do with plate size fed, to get right voltage need the right amount of surface area to create the 21v.
cranking batteries use thin plates which wont hold a charge as long..
deep cycles use thick plates, which hold the charge longer but wont relese it quick enough for cranking and such!
Spudly
Mar 29 2011, 03:25 PM
and the 11 or 13 plates means plates PER Cell... not totall plates!!
Fed
Mar 29 2011, 04:56 PM
QUOTE
11 or 13 plates means plates PER Cell... not totall plates!!
Ah Ha! Now that makes a bit more sense Rumpus, needless to say I've never axed or chainsawed a battery open.
Now it begs the question, I wonder why the odd number?
You'd think there say 6 positive plates & 6 negative plates in each cell.
Good one Rumpus, what do you know about Etecs?
kkw
Mar 29 2011, 06:38 PM
I've got an old battery here Fed. Come and get it. You can chainsaw it as much as you like. (at your place, not mine)
Spudly
Mar 29 2011, 08:06 PM
each cell is opposite, first cell will be say neg then second cell is pos.
so neg cells have 6 neg plates and 5 pos plates, then pos cell has 6 pos plates and 5 neg plates..
Spudly
Mar 29 2011, 08:12 PM
QUOTE
Good one Rumpus, what do you know about Etecs?
Boat engines, White, Some people love em, some people hate em....
Had nothing to do with em myself...
Fed
Mar 29 2011, 08:52 PM
Sorry Rumpus you're starting to lose me, you can't just have a 'positive cell'.
Spudly
Mar 29 2011, 08:54 PM
think of each cell having the opposite plates on each end, so then as they all run along they are connected in Series.
Each cell might add up to 2v and having 6 cells will give you 12 volts.
Spudly
Mar 29 2011, 08:57 PM
(+-+-+-+-+-+) (-+-+-+-+-+-) (+-+-+-+-+-+) (-+-+-+-+-+-) (+-+-+-+-+-+) (-+-+-+-+-+-)
each + and - represent a plate, there are you 6 (cells), first one +, Second one - and so on, and your first cell is + (pos terminal) and last is negative (neg terminal)
That is an 11 plate, 6 cell battery.. a 13 plate battery would have 2 extra plates in each cell.. they will always be a odd number.
hope that helps!?
Fed
Mar 29 2011, 09:19 PM
Wouldn't you think if you put a voltmeter across each cell the reading would be zero?
Voltmeter from first + to last plus?
Here------>(+-+-+-+-+-+)<------ and here.
Spudly
Mar 29 2011, 09:32 PM
hahaha....
Ok, well you wouldnt take a reading from the end of the cells,
in each cell all the pos plates are linked and all the neg plates are linked think they called straps or bridge? they are then connected in series with the next cell, though the pos is connected to the neg on the next cell and visa versa.
If you wanted to take a reading of a single cell you would measure potential difference of the positive cells against the negative cells via the plate straps. not two positive cells..
Fed
Mar 29 2011, 09:39 PM
Now I've gotcha, the plates are connected in parallel within the cells then in series with each cell.
The little drawing (+-+-+-+-+-+) led me to think they were in series within each cell.
Spudly
Mar 29 2011, 09:47 PM
Yea,,, haha, ive tried to find a pic on the net but there cant find anything which really shows it..
but ya got it now..
Jumpus GooDarus
Mar 29 2011, 10:33 PM
Spudly
Mar 29 2011, 10:37 PM
and what is that spose to be jumpy,
10 AA's all linked in series! ?
;p
Spudly
Mar 29 2011, 10:44 PM
Here ya go fed.....
Fed
Mar 30 2011, 12:42 AM
QUOTE
and what is that spose to be jumpy,
10 AA's all linked in series! ?
Good pic Rumpus but you will find the cells would have to be connected in series to get 12V.
Get the black rubber and rub out some of the black lines. I've got your drift though.
Spudly
Mar 30 2011, 03:30 AM
yea, i got a bit excited there didnt I..
Fed
Mar 30 2011, 12:10 PM
Probably laughing at the 10 x AAs.
Jumpus GooDarus
Mar 30 2011, 03:58 PM
Fed
Mar 30 2011, 04:16 PM
I just don't get it.
Spudly
Mar 30 2011, 07:37 PM
neither?
Well there is a pic of jumpy laying an egg??
Fed
Mar 30 2011, 08:06 PM
That's not Jumpy that's a GOOSE, Oh wait,...yes it is!
NetPez
Mar 30 2011, 09:54 PM
not insulting a goose are we?
Jumpus GooDarus
Mar 30 2011, 11:20 PM
The white thingy is Fed the goose & the udder thingy is spudly the spud
poly
Apr 1 2011, 12:51 AM
I don't care how the battery works, just so long as it starts the the bloody car.
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Paul
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