That Fairy Princess called Mr Shiny Head waswhining about seeing these new toys.

Only got the 6 - 10 kg stick today the others I got last week including the 2nd KUNGY Stick

The KUNGY sticks are 6ft long & pack some punch rated 15 - 37 kg reckon they'd be a hoot on YFT they're also a 2 piece rod & detatch @ the front hyperlon, longeer popping versions will lock straight in saves having to re-mount the reel.

The LOX sin rods ???????

Well they're selling like hot cakes air frieghted over as soon as they're built as it takes 3 months by ship

1-3 kg & the 2 - 6kg are available but I've got wun of only few, 6- 10 kg sticks stock wont be available till next year sum time

Do Complete Angler stock Viva rods ? I wouldn't mind having a look at one of those 6-10kg rods.

Pretty sure they do Frank... They are nice rods

Complete Angler are prob wun of the biggest stockist of viva gear

BUT ewe wont find the viva tag on the gear

Complete Angler have done a deal with viva & have sole rights to use the name Browing similar to wot Bass Pro have done over in the USA



Not till next yeah Frank & Comple angler will be the 1st I think to have these rods as they put their order in 1st

Looking 4ward to using mine did spool it up with sum 8kg line, had also remade the drag on it's reel replacing it with leather so diod sorta give rod a bit of a work out bedding in the new drag

I will grab one and put it through my simulator and will let you know what I think of them.
Not that my opinion would mean anything.

The light 1-3kg ones are nice. They're selling so well because they've been labelled as Nitro's at around 2/3 the price.

There are some models that aren't as good, though.

It's quite amusing reading sumof the feedback on the rods wun of the sales peeps @ viva googled it up for me to read.

Googlefushy your reply here gave me a very good luffy wuffy



Obviously ewe've never held wun in your hands cause there's no reference to the Nitro rods labelled on the LOX rods wotsoever but I'll cut ewe a wittle leeway cause your comment could be read differently.

Salespeeps in tackle stores are aware the LOX is a rip off from the Nitro & are using that info to boost sales

The rods are identical in all aspects &I did a thread on them ages ago back when only the sample LOX was in oz they load the same look the same & could only tell them apart cause the Nitro had it's stickers

This is the comment that got me



How could that be so when up till a week or so ago only the 1 - 3 kg stick was available ?????????

If ewe read my original post in this thread I also stated that & that the only other wun avail was the 2 - 6kg

Even the 6 - 10 kg stick nimrod was asking about in the pics are not avail & I'm not even supposed to have the wun I have & if it's needed to show off to customers I have to take it back till stock arrives

Let us know Frank cause i want to buy one too

What reel are you thinking of putting on it ?

MM, must agree, seen em in the flesh today, Even got to load em up on a goodarus fushy and test em out, however the catch was a throw back!!

But, Very Very Nice rods, along with some of the other gear coming out... Cant wait to get my hands on one of the kingy/heavy spin rods!! Awesome bits of gear!

Was out for a fush yesterday & wun of the Viva boses was out with us

Gave him heaps about the LOX rods jumping out of boats & not being able to float esp when Toovlo is on board

Anyways turns out that nearly the full fange of tese rods are now available

1 - 3 kg spin
2 - 5 kg spin
3 - 6 kg spin

Not sure about the 6 - 10 kg

There's various lengths as well 6 1/2 ft - 7 1/2 ft

Also those Kungy sticks are in & selling quite well for the short time they've been on the shelves

I'm going up 2morro to replace my lost 1-3 kg & maybe grab wun of the other sticks I dont have.

And also to re-stock on those Yoshi squid jigs cause Paul lost a few f mine yeserday says the weed kept taking his

Looks like I get that 7ft jig/poping stick as well they're not going wih he electric blue hypalon & opted for sum ting darker told him it would go well with my new new bootys now I have matchng colours

Went & visited my favourite tackle store 2day to replace my lost 1-3 kg sticky

Well that was the plan & to pick up sum squiddy jigs

Came home with ?? A bit more than I intended

Wot a Bitch cause now I've got to re-arrange the rod racks to make them fit

Ended up with a pair of the 1 - 3's & thought I'd try out the 2-5 kg stick as well hadn't seen this wun yet & it was good to see it was brought in as a bait rod & not labeled spin rod.

My personal taste would've liked it to have had a longer butt [ those who've used my rods know the way I like bait rods set up] but this stick has ample butt to fit in any rod holder.

Grips are cork but again just my taste after using cork on my existing bait rods would've liked to have seen these in just plain hypalon
I use pilly's & scales like clinging to cork that's all easy to wash off

Did have a play with the 3 - 6 kg spin but left it behind for now as stock hasn't arrived, slighty different action to the other sticks & I liked it alot copied more from the Mega Bass rod I spoke of sum time back

Last but not least grabbed another of the LOX Kungy sticks only because the 2 I have were samples & didn't have the LOX stickers on them prob grab another as well cause when the sample rods come over they dont the fuji hardware on them & I'm not a fan of the chi nee guides

I also opted to wait for stock to arrive B4 grabing that 7 ft jig/popping rod, the wun tha matched my bootys they have been ordered with Red hypalons to match the LOX colours.

After doing all that I had to harry holt back home & make a new drag for the CD 7500 reels I spoke of elsewhere they had been ordered but a holt was put to that order cause drags weren't up to scratch, took my CD up today & it impressed all who had a wank on the rod

Whoops that should've read Yank not wank

Reel I remoded today is going back to china thurday with the boys who are going over for 3 days to celebrate Viva's 10th birthday & I told them to bring me plenty of goody's cause it's their B'day

I'd like to be presnt when drags are fitted to reels in case of any balls ups so looks like drag washers will be punched out in china & assembled here

Everytime we catch up you make me pull on your rod then yell at me, "Harder, harder, more more!"
What's that all about?
I laughed yesterday, the drag was jerking then the line broke & you looked like a stunned mullet.

Why did the line break Fed ??????????

Had nothing to do with the drag

I think it broke because it was all hairy like string.

Just WHAT were you two doing yesterday!!!! I'm scared to go fishing with you Fed.

KK .. don't worry they were doing it in the driveway

Wear heavy duty Sunglasses in triple XXX else ewe'll go blind the reflections off Mr Shinny Head are Blinding




I'll fis ewe up Gumballs

Hey guys ! any of ewes ever seen a Seafairy pissed ?????

I did





Those interested in reading a bit more data on these rods Oz site is finally going Intro page link below just click the tabs for the various rods

Not all are listed as they haven't arrived so guess ewe guys got a sneak peak @ a few

http://www.vivafishing.com.au/lox.htm

Duh, of course that's what I meant. Why on earth would a company mention another company by name on their product? I've seen the LOX rods plenty of times, and I ALMOST bought one but I wanted something a tad heavier and stiffer than the 1-3kg model.

Every salesman in the stores immediately tells the potential buyer that they're almost copies of Nitro's, hence trying to get a sale.



I've seen more than just the 1-3kg in person. I don't really like the jig stick and was not impressed by the 5kg rod - I was taken back when I read the specs because I thought it was 10kg based on how thick and chunky the blank was.

Wot can i say Googlefushy exept Me Tinks ewe are amazing

1stly only the 1-3kg stick is a copy of the Nitro none of the others are

2ndly the so called jig stick is also a live bait stick & your the 1st person that I've heard of that dosen't lke it

3rdly the 2 - 5 kg stick is a bait stick not a spin stick it's even got snappe rod written on the sticker

Next time dont be in such ahurry to pass judgement on things you've never used or know about

You've never seen me do that & I think I know a hell of a lot more about tackle than ewe do

1st I never said any of the rods other than the 1-3kg were copies of nitros.

2nd Whatever you call it, I don't really like it. Mainly because of the length of the foregrip. Honestly I don't care what the manufacturer says the rod's designed for, I decide what the rod would be best for based on how it feels in my hand and its specs.

3rd I was talking about the 5kg model, not the 2-5kg model. To it's defence, it is a travel rod, but let's just say I've seen much better travel rods.

What I will check out is the 2-5kg rod, I haven't seen that rod YET and am looking for a 5kg rod with a bit of length.

Also, I know you have more experience with tackle than I do. I don't contest that. HOWEVER, I feel that I know enough to make my own decisions and I stick by what I think and say. The initial look and feel of a rod is very important in my opinion, especially relatively new rods like these. That's what makes people buy them, you rarely get to try before you buy. I'm also pretty sure you're affiliated with Viva, what what you say may be a lil' bit bias.

Maybe not directly but that's wot ewe insinuated, I gave ewe slack with the labeling thingy cause I know very well the bullshitta that sales people will spin to get a sale



Then take a leaf from my book & give people reasons why ewe dont like a product & let them make up their own minds, the way ewe come across on these forums is that ewe're the all mighty of fishing tackle & people should take your word on things, ewe never give reasons as to why



Why on earth would ewe even bother looking @ that rod ?????

Christ not even I have bothered looking @ it, it's a convinence rod with a very limited market I'm surprised they even put it into production



Ewe know very little I'm afraid & got alot to learn & the only way ewe can get knowledge is with time wun day if ewe think back to his conversation ewe'll look back & say to yourself

Hmmmmm that Jumpus falla knew wot he was on on about



Ewe want to know why I seem to have so many outfits ???????????????

Cause when I take sum wun new out with me they bring nut ting in tackle they use my gear that's wot it's there for to let them make make their own minds

People like Spud, Bees, Jelly Bean etc etc on this site aren't sucking up to me, they've all used the gear & putting up their own thoughts a far cry from wot ewe are doing





I have no affiliation with the boys exept that we are good friends, when people do the right thing by me I return the compliment, I have no need nor do I make $$'s from fishing tackle I made my $$'s elsewhere.

I do it for the love of the sport which has given me great enjoyment over the years.

Nor am I bias towards the Viva tackle I do not hesitate to point out wot I think is wrong with their gear& again it's allways my personal view & I stress that in my posts cause not every wun has the same taste

It's more a case of me getting sick & tired of all the bullshitta rave everybody posts on forums in regards to the Daiwa & Shimano gear but unlike most who rave on about this gear I own quite a fair bit of their Top range reels sum ting very few do.

So my Q to ewe is !

How can sum wun boast about Sum Ting they dont own ???????????????????????????????????????????????????


Oh just wun more thing

Wun of the reasons I go to bat for Viva is quite simple esp of late since they've started bringing out some quality tackle

They make it affordable for those who dont want to pay the over the top Shimano , daiwa prices

Whilst I'm here those who dont want to pay those over the top Shimano , daiwa prices on reels like the stella etc have a look @ these had I'd not purchased that 20000 stella not long ago & known about these

These reels would've been my choice @ under have the $$'s

Sort of pulled wun apart today & was impressed Assemble here in Sth Oz they are built like brick shite houses

http://www.tufftackle.com.au/

hmmm how can I answer this:

1. Wasn't insinuating anything. I know the 1-3kg LOX are a copy of the Nitro Vapour series. The other rods don't look anything like anything from Nitro.

2. The kingy stick's aren't to MY liking. Loaded up, it feels uncomfortable. Of course loaded up by a person and by a fish are very different, but it gives me an idea. I had to hold the grip about half way down which was pretty thick and I don't see the point for as much grip as there is. By holding it up toward the top of the grip the rod felt like snapping (seeing how I had to high stick it to hold it there).

3. Like I said, I stick by my decisions. Whether you agree with them??? I've felt the kingy stick and I didn't like it - first impressions are a big part of what I have to go on before I sink my $$$ into a product. My opinion can always be changed, but to do that it seems I'd have to buy the rod, then use it, and then like it. I don't have the money (or the contacts) to justify that risk. If I bought it and still didn't like it then that's just money wasted. I don't get to try before I buy either, or not in this case.

What I was wrong about, though, was assuming you had some sort of affiliation with Viva tackle. For that, my apologies. With all the cutting edge news on Viva tackle I just assumed, but I was wrong.

Also, the only LOX products I don't like are the kingy stick and travel stick. The lighter ones feel nice, look nice and (on first impressions) seem like a great rod. Don't think I'm bad mouthing the whole range.

I've seen those tuff tackle reels. I am looking to get a higher end jigging combo (~50lb) and was planning to get a Twinpower 8000SW (very similar to the Stella SW). I may look into it, do you have any reviews of it?

Heya Catch, I just dont get what your saying... Ive seen these rods, ive been to the viva factory and seen a "VERY SMALL" amount the gear they have, so who do you know that has shown you this stuff before it leaves the factory.

No offence mate, But i just find it hard to work out how you get to play and try out all this gear before anyone else, when the bloke whos pic is all through their catalogue has the one of the only ones in the country and im pretty sure he didnt show em to ya?

Sure Jumpy might give them a good plug, but all the gear ive got through him or viva has been great and its still a fraction of the price of the shimano or daiwa stuff which doesn't do the job any better, just has a flash label..

Aha !

You're finally learng sum ting

The rod was designed to do exactly wot ewe dont like about it & this is where your inexpirience shows, Kungs are an up & down fight the longer 4grip gives ewe that much more leverage & lifting power on the fush

I dopped off sum stock off to Botany Bay Tackle yesterday on the way home & there was a few boys there, they all drooled over the kungy stick Loui used to pro for kungs using jigs many moons ago & both of us said why wasn't tackle about back in the goodarus old days.

His brother Steve [aka the Talking Machine ] Wants them for his chater boat & he's a Kungy Specialist
Could've sold the one I dropped off within 5 minutes but cause the guy was a mate of the boys told the guy 2b be patient & wait for wot I think to be a much better jig stick to arrive



Loui has got the 2 alloy body models in his shop they actually look the goods




That's correct [A very small Amount] ewe were there for the sale which was out front I wont take anybody into the warehouse or showroom cause they'll walk out with 's



Well I wasn't aware the other models had arrived thought it was only the 1-3kg sticks they were air frieghting into oz shops wanted the kungs sticks on the shelves for Xmas

FOW in the city has plenty of the LOX range stocked - whether it's all of them I don't think so, but definitely the kingy stick and the travel rod along with a few more slightly heavier ones than the 1-3kg. They've been there for a while too, or at least before I put up my first reply in this thread. That's where I found them.

JG I've caught plenty of kings, I know how they fight. Not as many as you, but enough (and it's more than 2 or 3). I also know all about leverage. I still think the grips are too long and too thick for my liking. By holding the rod high up towards the top of the grip you're forced to either high stick it (unless you have really long arms), or bend over to compensate. That'll hurt your back if you bend over and when you high stick a rod you better know what you're doing (give and take when the fish dives and rises).

Does nothing of the sorts & to those who actually know how to handle a rod there's no chance of causing yourself an injury.

I'm not the spring chookens I used 2b & have lost alot of body weight compared to when I was younger but I'd outlast any of ewe spring chookens fighting a fushy.

Think the prob with most of ewe wittle chookens is you've to many dickheads on video's & the idiot box all rying to be hero's with no idea on how to handle a rod
Sum that I have seen give the impression they are vying 4 1st place in the world Wanking Championships & want to get dubbed King 2 stroke

I've only seen a very few actually possess style & grace when working a rod & that's when I start making fun of peeps with sum of the posts they make

No need on Kungs to harness up cause the fight dont last that long so it's all arms in lifting the fush not your back or legs

Different story on gamefish like marlin, YFT, with straight butts 15 kg & under I dont even bother with harness nor rod bucket unless the fight goes into overtime & arms start getting tired

24kg & over that's a different story think bent butts are a must with a good thigh bucket & bum harness again ewe do not lift with your back this is where your legs do all the work

Use equipment correctly & there's no chance you'll hurt yourself

If I saw anyone with a harness on a king I'd give them sh*t too. A rod bucket is all you need at most - on larger fish.

I think I'm done arguing. Let's just agree to disagree.

Googlefushy have ewe given up allready ??????????

I'm off for a few days should be enough time to refill your Bagpipes & ewe can attempt another comeback

Oh !

here's a rod stroing technique tip for ewe to practice whilst I'm away it's called the Mr Miyagi Sun technique

1st ewe need to find a pole
This pole is to stand on, not to take your cloths off & dance around & yes ewe can still leave your hat on

Hook a fushy & land it whilst standing on wun leg, this will teach ewe balance

ps] Make sure ewe go to the toilet & do wee wee's b4 getting up on the pole else wee wee's will wun down your leg

No point arguing opinions. I don't like them, you do. I've given my reasons, you've given yours. By the looks of it, nothing's going to change that any time soon.

BTW I bet you learnt all your pole dancing moves around Foreshore ay?

Actually it twas Juicy Lucy & her triangular monster that taught me to Pole Dance

Wot I want to know is !

Did the Wee Wee's run down your legs ?????????????

No poles where I fish. I stay away from them places.

There's nothing wrong with holding the top grip a little lower if your arms are too short to comfortably reach the top of it.

hey jumpy which one would you recommend for lure tossin in fresh ,for catchin cod,goldens,redfin and carp ,,,jas

Tis a hard wun to answer cause not evllywun fush's the same

I really luved the 1-3 kg stick I got to use yesterday till I snaped the tip off & had to use my squid rod for most of the day
Ewe really notice a big difference when casting & even the wee est of taps get felt through the rod & that's wot I used to take the piss out of peeps hu claimed that braid gives ewe that feel.

Wot alot of Booshite tis the rod a good rod with the right action will let ewe feel everything

My fault got the braid wraped around the tip & it knoted up, silly meput a wee bit to much pressure on the tip & it snaped, not gonna worry about geting a new front section for the rod cause I only lost about 25 mm I've allready sweated of the tip & re-glued it back on.

As great as these 1 - 3 kg sticks are I would not recomend them to anywun who dosen't look after their gear

Need ewe to tell me line class ewe want to run ???

Only used it a couple of times but I like the 2 - 5 kg stick @ present hardware [grips] are set up as a bait rod but when stock arrives there will be a spin model these blanks are copies of the Megbass rods

I kinda liked the wot they're calling the 4 - 7 kg stick but haven't got wun yet

prolly about 15lb for most fishies,,i liked those ones you were playin with up here ,the viva ones ,,but they were a little too light i think for cod and yellows ,,would be fun hookin up too a big cod on one of those rods though ,,,,jas

Prob the wun they call the 3 - 5 kg stick

It's got the whippy tip which will allow ewe to really whip out the lighter hard body lures & it's got the lifting grunt to control the fushy's

I did have sum pics of Bees using wun loaded up on a fushy but cant seem to find the pic

thanx jumpy ,,ill google up lox rods and see what prices are about and stuff ,,,jas

just had a google and the iridium series 4-6 kilo looks the go ,,but no prices anywhere ,,jas

It's the 3 - 5 kg stick I spoke of

The Chi Nee aren'y velly good @ rating rods, they get sent over here with really weid line class's

So I took the liberty to re- rate the rods & all the new stock will arrive with IGFA line class's

oh ok no worries ,jas

I like these wuns as bait rods
but not allowed to have them yet
same blanks just diferent hardware on them

there a bloody nice lookin rod ,,jas

just went and bought the missus a brand new car ,so by the time i pay off 60k they should be cheap enough ,then i might get a newer boat too ,,might ,,,jas

I had a GooDarus the other day

Needed sum of those Yoshi squid jigs & went to visit my favourite tackle shop + I wanted another of the 2 - 5 kg LOX sticks for the goat

Really thought this was a classic I new only heat could cause fraying like inset pic then I read the note on the returned front portion of the rod

With these LOX rods ewe can buy the tips @ a cost of $50 if ewe ever break it but cant understand why peeps go to the trouble & expense of posting back the damaged tips as there is no need to

LOL i couldnt help but laugh at that note

Flattie. Don't know if you have decided on a rod yet.
Complete Angler have the Browning 1-3 kilo rods at the moment for $ 149 with case.
These rods are LOX with a different sticker on them.

Thanks for that frank but i went out and got a Pflueger Trion matched with a Shimano stradic ci14 not long ago

No they are not Frank

BUT if they are the 1 piece Brownings ?????????

Suburb rob & @ that price I'd recomend them to any wun RRP was over $300 on that rod & was my favourite for a long time till Sum Wun I know from Viva lost it over the side

If it's the 2 piece rod ??????????

Still a very nice blank I have 2Tu of them in the racks good 3 kg for the novice I run 2 kg through them

On another note the full range of the LOX should be arriving in 2 weeks

Had a play around with a few 2day didn't like the 3 - 6 kg stick all sold out only 100 were imported these were another Nitro rip off

Much better stick is wot should be labelled 4 - 6 kg this is a rip snorta blank it's a rip off of the Mega Bass rod beaut tip acton & alot of grunt down low

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