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salty fil
Guys i noticed my boat sitting on the wheel hubs yesterday and on a closer look i saw a crack in the base.
Its not the actual axle that goes across the wheels. I have a bar running across the trailer on each side of the axle. One is cracked and the other is about to.
I have over 600 kg sitting on it. Is it fixable???
nimrod
QUOTE (salty fil @ May 9 2008, 12:51 PM) *
Guys i noticed my boat sitting on the wheel hubs yesterday and on a closer look i saw a crack in the base.
Its not the actual axle that goes across the wheels. I have a bar running across the trailer on each side of the axle. One is cracked and the other is about to.
I have over 600 kg sitting on it. Is it fixable???



Yes it is fixable, the xmember needs to be cut out and a new one put in, in it's place.
I doubt that that one beam is the sole problem with the trailer though, I suspect much more to be wrong then just one xmember.
I need to have a look at the trailer for a better assestment.
salty fil
[quote name='nimrod' date='May 9 2008, 02:18 PM' post='16395']
Yes it is fixable, the xmember needs to be cut out and a new one put in, in it's place.
I doubt that that one beam is the sole problem with the trailer though, I suspect much more to be wrong then just one xmember.
I need to have a look at the trailer for a better assestment.
[/quote


Your right Frank.
I just finished cleaning the boat and from jumping in and out i noticed the other xmember has cracked also!
There goes my fishing for a while, my favourite month for it aswell!
Im in Brookvale, is it to dangerous to drive it towards you for a "better assesment"?
I know that you have good knowledge with these things from following your posts on here and from the other place.
Spudly
Judging by the external rust, Id say that the internals are quite rusted also and Nope, I wouldnt drive anywhere far with it..

Possable quick solution would be to raise the weight off the trailer and straighten the crossbeams and sleeve the full length with some c section and weld into place.

It would be a very temp repair though and it would best be to get the boat off the trailer and have the complete trailer checked and repaired or replaced.. Might cost a few dollars but not as much as replacing your boat?
poly
yep get the boat off the trailer so a full check can be carried out, i don't think it a good idea to tow it with the boat on, salty this may seem a dumb question, but do u know how to get it off on dry land ?????????
salty fil
QUOTE (poly @ May 9 2008, 05:18 PM) *
yep get the boat off the trailer so a full check can be carried out, i don't think it a good idea to tow it with the boat on, salty this may seem a dumb question, but do u know how to get it off on dry land ?????????



Ive heard things like dropping it on tyres. It is not a dumb question so please explain.
The problem isnt dropping it. Its where and for how long.
Some ideas would be great on dropping it.
Thanks.
oz man
That is one nasty crack, get the boat off it and it can be fixed by a few simple welds and the bars being replaced.
Spudly
a franna crane!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bees Knees
The last time i saw a crack That big, was in that "marlin fishing" report photo.. on Jumpy's boat peace.gif
nimrod
QUOTE (salty fil @ May 9 2008, 06:14 PM) *
Ive heard things like dropping it on tyres. It is not a dumb question so please explain.
The problem isnt dropping it. Its where and for how long.
Some ideas would be great on dropping it.
Thanks.


If you want me to come to your place and drop the boat on your lawn, tow the trailer back to my place, fix the trailer, take it back to you and fit the boat back on the trailer. I could take tyres over,etc.
You better send me a PM with your address and details, phone number etc, so we can work out a price for you.
If you want to do it from someone closer to you it's your call.
All I can tell you at this stage is that I can do the job for you a lot cheaper then a registered trailer workshop will do.
quintrex101
QUOTE (nimrod @ May 9 2008, 09:22 PM) *
If you want me to come to your place and drop the boat on your lawn, tow the trailer back to my place, fix the trailer, take it back to you and fit the boat back on the trailer. I could take tyres over,etc.
You better send me a PM with your address and details, phone number etc, so we can work out a price for you.
If you want to do it from someone closer to you it's your call.
All I can tell you at this stage is that I can do the job for you a lot cheaper then a registered trailer workshop will do.


you are a one of a kind frank, well done, thats good of you helpin out all the members biggrin.gif
storms72
Salty, take Frank up on his offer...I'v seen his work first hand and it will be well worth it even at double his price!

I used to work at a boat yard mate and when dropping hulls onto the deck just put 2 car tyres under the arse end either side to support the hull at the rear then as you lower the front end only one tyre is needed to keep her off the ground.....Highly recommend you connect the trailer to your car and very slowly move forward as the boats coming off-saves the front of the trailer from lifting also the trailer can take off once the arse end comes down....You will maybe want to put something between the guards and your hull to prevent scratching-a thick woolen or synthetic blanket will do the trick and just jack-up the centre of the crack to raise the hull from the guards then put the blanket between the hull and guards!!
salty fil
I will definitely take you up on your offer Frank. I just have to figure where to drop the boat. I have no access to my backyard for it.
Thanks for all the help guys.
Jumpus GooDarus
You'll stuff up the boat moving it about on that trailer & have 2 options

* get some throw out tyres tie back of boat to something secure then slowly drive away, make sure you've undone the safety chain & winch cable 1st.

Every foot or so stop & throw a couple of tyres under the boat till it's right off the trailer.

You'll have to unboat the trailer to get it repaired anyways.


* [quick repair option]

Get some steel plates aroud 6mm & have them pre drilled

Jack up the traler so as it lifts & crack closes then drill & bolt the plates onto the split channel using high tensil bolts


ps] this is only a temp repair & you should not tow like that for long but it will get you mobile.
salty fil
Frank i sent you a PM with my number a few days ago. I dont know if you got it, maybe your inbox is full.
If you didnt let me know and il re do it. Got a quiet week this week at work so if its suitable with you id love to get on to it.
Also i have to speak to the marina beforehand to see if i can stash the boat there.
Thanks mate.
nimrod
QUOTE (salty fil @ May 12 2008, 05:35 PM) *
Frank i sent you a PM with my number a few days ago. I dont know if you got it, maybe your inbox is full.
If you didnt let me know and il re do it. Got a quiet week this week at work so if its suitable with you id love to get on to it.
Also i have to speak to the marina beforehand to see if i can stash the boat there.
Thanks mate.


Fil. Got it OK, I have to go and see the doctor tomorrow sometime so will give you a call after that, and make arrangements for me to come and pick up the trailer.
salty fil
Ok. Thanks mate. Didnt want to sound like i was breaking them, just didnt know if you got it.
Good luck at the doctor mate, talk soon.
Jumpus GooDarus
QUOTE (nimrod @ May 12 2008, 08:26 PM) *
Fil. Got it OK, I have to go and see the doctor tomorrow sometime



Should've told me earlier Frank !

I would've put on my Dr Jumpus overcoat laugh.gif laugh.gif
Christos
QUOTE (Jumpus GooDarus @ May 12 2008, 09:48 PM) *
I would've put on my Dr Jumpus overcoat



Only if you are sick. Then you have to see a doctor. Not just the overcoat.
salty fil
Ok fellas. Frank came over earlier and we got the boat onto the driveway and now the trailers on its way to his place for repairs.
I was abit nervous watching it slide onto the tyres but it all went good.
Once again, i want to thank Frank for taking the time to come all this way and take the trailer back home.
Hopefully i can be back on the water fishing again. Missed out on the comp this weekend.
Bees Knees
He's a good man.. I thought you had a kayak as well!!
I was just thinking about your comment on missing the comp dry.gif
Jumpus GooDarus
QUOTE
Hopefully i can be back on the water fishing again.


Boy have I got news 4 U

Saw someone 2day who looked just like Frank, he even had one of those beard thingy's as well.

Anyways he was on the side of the road attaching someFor Sale signs onto what looked like a boat trailer & the trailer looked like it had a crack or 2 in it laugh.gif laugh.gif
nimrod
QUOTE (Jumpus GooDarus @ May 17 2008, 07:00 PM) *
Boy have I got news 4 U

Saw someone 2day who looked just like Frank, he even had one of those beard thingy's as well.

Anyways he was on the side of the road attaching someFor Sale signs onto what looked like a boat trailer & the trailer looked like it had a crack or 2 in it laugh.gif laugh.gif


Jeeze Jumpy, You could have kept it to yourself for at least a couple of days. And just for flapping your toungue around, you Ain't gonna get your share of the cut.
Christos
I never said anything. Can I still get my share?
nimrod
It's got me beat how the boat ever went up on this trailer without pulling the guts out of the winch, or scraping all the gelcote off the hull of the boat.
All the rollers along the keel, all 3 of them have badly rusted pins and are siezed firm within the rollers, the back one being seized and bent.
So far I have cut the 2 x members out and made up new ones to go in their place.
Will visit my supplyer tomorrow and get some new pins,brackets etc and phil won't know himself, it should be so much easier, and safer to load with twice as many rollers and ones that turn, will help.
Christos
I can only guess not that Salty fil is a very big boy.
salty fil
Ha Ha! Cheeky buggers the lot of you!!!
I was considering taking the kayak, but the wind was blowing so hard i wouldve had problems getting around.
Didnt miss out on much. The weigh in was dissapointing. But my mate got a thumper Taylor, 5.8 kg. and 98 cm.
I havnt seen one that big in the flesh. But the club record is 7.5 kg, so he missed out on that.
Jumpus GooDarus
QUOTE (nimrod @ May 18 2008, 03:48 PM) *
It's got me beat how the boat ever went up on this trailer without pulling the guts out of the winch, or scraping all the gelcote off the hull of the boat.
All the rollers along the keel, all 3 of them have badly rusted pins and are siezed firm within the rollers, the back one being seized and bent.
So far I have cut the 2 x members out and made up new ones to go in their place.
Will visit my supplyer tomorrow and get some new pins,brackets etc and phil won't know himself, it should be so much easier, and safer to load with twice as many rollers and ones that turn, will help.



The mitre joit just welded with no gusset are a poor weak point on any trailer.

Add to that the weight of phil's lunch in the boat ??

No wonder the bloody things cracked hysterical.gif hysterical.gif hysterical.gif
salty fil
Plus all the monster fish i catch and have to tow back home...................
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