Well peeps think it'll be a sad day when these restrictions are enforced.
I popped out last night to go say hello & take the piss out of a few of the boys whom I know @ the local fishing club I duck in every now & then to say hurro.
Anyways cant give you's a great deal of info on the topic as it came out in conversation late in the night by one of the guys & it's going to be discussed in further detail @ their next meeting.
One which I'll be attending just to get the full story on these restrictions.
Anyway apparantly the ports authority has now deemed Botany Bay to be unsafe due to the growing amount of oil tankers, cargo ships & the growing amount of tugs /pilot vessel usage.
Hence they want recreational fishermem to suffer once again by placing restrictions on where they can anchor inside the bay & I'm not talking about inside the shipping channels either.

Apparantly those no anchor zones will extend way past the shipping channels & will forbid anyone from anchoring virtually anywhere from the heads to where the 3rd runway is.

So all those fishermen who anchor up @ Molinuex Pt waiting for kungs to appear cant anchor there, the bommy place of alot of my fishing reports : well you cant fish the spot on the drift & I will get a fine if I achor there etc etc.

I've been fishing the Bay for nearly 30 years now & in that time have seen the place diminish in the way of fish sizes & no's guess like every other place, but in the Bay the fish are still there just that we as fishermen aren't allowed to fish the man made structures that house these fish.

I'm refering to places like the runways , oil wharf & container terminal & I really think it'll be a very sad day if these anchor zones get enforced the Bay is virtually barren on the whole 80 % of it has an average depth of 4 - 6 meters & there are only 2 1/2 decent reefs which will be off limits to boats that anchor on them.

Reasons given by authorities are that the commercial boats wash will become 2 dangerous for boats anchored to which I say wash can be & is just as dangerous being on the drift as it is if anchored & they should look @ alternatives like governing speed limits on these commercial boats boats to stop the wash they give off instead of penalising the small boat owner.

I'll keep you's up to date when I hear more.

One very PISSED off Jumpus

wow...
thats bad news...

Hmmmmm,


Just as I was thinking of fishing botany bay more often.

Maybe a petition to create more of those man made reefs in the anchor zones??

Jack

Typical bureacats....next thing they will stop us fishing the rivers too.........

We should all boycott paying our fishing fees if we cant fish the good spots in the bay or anywhere else for that matter......

Jumpy. Is that South Sydney club ?. If so I might venture down there myself next meeting, to hear what is being talked about.

WELL what can i say other than welcome to the no go zones, if u think back to your last trip down to J.B. you will know how well the greens did keeping every one out of the best spots,
they may not be calling it a marine park but the end result is the same, on fishing or at least no effective fishing, well what to do fight my friend fight, hard and dirty.
shooting has been all but shut down and now its fishings turn, and if u don't believe me just ask a greeny

thats bullshit well youll see me on da news matey for ive had it up to ...h......its to much blue tap ..botany bay is ours as much as these 2 bob idiot planners who decide how we live our lifes ... well lets all pull together on this one and really be heard for if we dont it will happen but if we unite we can make that differnce once its lost its lost forever ...i would love to see my grandsoon be able to fish with me achored in botany bay abnd why shouldnt he ........comwe on fishos let show some muscle......keep us inform jump .......good onya mate

Majed wait till I put up a thread of how the authorities are spending our fishing licence fee's

Think everyone here will get a rude shock.

I wont do the thread till I get the figures on paper of how much each of those Fads cost.

Well in my books no way they could cost that much , personally I think there were alot of pack door payments made to those high up in the Government dept to even approve such ridiculous figures.

Yes it was Frank !

Like I said every now & then I get down there to say hurro to the boys & we generally have a good laugh & was shaking my head last night upon hearing the news

Yes those No Fish zones are pathetic poly

But unoficially we've had them here in Botany Bay long B4 they were even considered by that F********* labour government for places down & up the coast.

You have to bear in mind Botany Bay is not very big @ all & as I said in opening post about 80 % is very shallow water & not very good as a fish producing waters.

1st came the oil wharf & we're not allowed to fish it's vicinity but the wharf attracts the fish from other area's
Next the container Terminal well much the same but on a grander scale
Next some great area's are a no fish zone up behind towrain the creek there
Next the 3rd runway prob not that bad until they also put up those yellow buoys forbidding entry which in turn close off the waters in between the runways which yields some great flathead & protection from wind for smaller boats

Now they want to shut us out of the few remaining spots left which actually still yeild decent fish.

That is wrong & I cant accept their excuse that you're still allowed to fish there on the drift cause that area cant be fished that way

Dave I can see the pair of us getting locked up

Esp with my short tolerance for bullsh*t

ps] Do you think the guys here would rally to bail us out or do you think they'd laugh @ us ???

uhhhhhhhhh......

Don't ask questions you may not like the answer of

Jack

Im up for causing some RUCKUS!!

It will take a case of Rum, Some Tequila and a Cask of Tawny!!!

Then we can go start bashing in some doors!!

I recon a chain link of fishing boats across the heads will make a good start.. We Can send the Poly's in for the first row!!

might be a dusty trip from the bush with the rum for some ruckus in the city

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On just get on with and Fill in Botany Bay.
This has been a joke within our family for 40 years. One day they might just do it, imaging The Georges River channel. Oh and a special little channel for people to retrace Captain Cook's voyage.

We would not laugh at you. We will put up a thread.

Then put up another thread on the subject of the thread, then maybe go off topic and have to create another thread.

Please keep us up to date.

But use your 1 phonecall to call your lawyer

Jack

Well thats just crap. :fan: Down this way its turning good people into crimanals because they want to fish the no go zones. If you are caught its not a on the spot fine but a day in court, meanwhile they confiscate your boat and fishing gear. They can then auction it off at low prices never to be seen again. (it's not like were racing down the main street doing burnouts etc we are trying to catch our dinner) Then you show up in court, having to pay lawyers, court costs and a fine. Now you also have a Police record which will make it harder to get a honest job.

I very begrudginly pay the fishing licence. I used to fish Jervis Bay every weekend years ago. I don't even bother now. It p(*&es me off that I pay for a licence to fish in less and less waters than when the licence first reared it's ugly head. I don't benefit one iota from the fees.

how very true, when a license comes in you can bet it is the thin edge of the wedge, it is my belief that governments use that money to build a war chest so they can restrict us down the track.

Yep Yep it is Bullsh*t but even worse is that it encourages smaller boats to venture out further treading into more dangerous waters.



Yep Yep Mado I'm prob one of the biggest critics of the fishing licence fee's that you'd ever meet esp after knowning how much they rake in from the fee's.

I've said it B4 , think the only way those fee's can get abolished is for fishermen to rally & take out a class action againt the state government.

We would win as well simply because the introduction of the licence was to buy out the LFB licences & they did just that in the 1st 6 months & all the authorities have done since is squander our $$$$'s on bullsh*t.

I'm out fushing with a mate who's got figures /cost of each of those FAD"S

May even have a guessing comp but I think the correct answer would be safe you guys will have a spew @ how our licence fee's are @ work

$235.00

HAHAHA

My guess would be more up around the 100k mark...

it would be a lot more than that i would think RUM some were between 5 and 10 thousand per fad am i close J.G.

The amount of ships will get worse when they close down the sydney harbour wharfs/docks and direct all container ships to botany bay.

Its all crap, shoot em all and let god sort em out.

Yep Yep & you're right off the mark as well

Try $ 250 , 000 per FAD

Topic came up on saturday when we were out marlin fushing & I'm hoping Jimbooky was correct & my spots aren't included in the No Anchor Zones.

Wouldn't be surprised if all this came about just to keep boats right away from the oil wharf & Molineux Pt

When I was fishing sort of irregular at Molineux Point they put in a fence to stop people from getting across. This did not stop people as we held on to the fence on the climb down. Then walked throught the hole in the fence. When I went there after years of not being there the fence has sort of mostly gone. So it was much easier to walk across to sit down for a fish.