Thought this topic may be of interest & may be of benefit to those who dont fair all that well on their fishing days out.

So let's see if we cant get everyone catching fush on a regular basis shall we ??

Nothing like the old saying expirience will catch you fush but I've allways said that if you dont put in the effort then you wont aquire the expirience required to make virtually every trip pretty much a success.

Sure you can read what others have written in these types of sites but I think 1st hand expirience cannot be beat by that I mean fish with someone who's in the know & pick up on what they do.

Think to start off here we'll discuss locations !!!!!!

Irrellevant if fishing boats or Land Based how do you chose your spots & why ?????????????????????????

tidders an dthe odd legal flattie on port hacking ... only because its a great spot and close to home

To start locations......

I fish the Hawkesbury because i know the water. But it doesn't always catch me fish.
I have never gone home fishless from there, but i dont always catch keepers.

I want to have a look at the harbour, but my wife needs to back in the boat.. They are more tolerant on the hawkesbury

Location:

I launch from grey's point, always and always fish hacking as you can always find sheltered areas if there is wind.

I have not had much luck getting decent fish so don't follow everything I do.

Yakka's :get out look for some structure on the sounder berley up and hope for yakka's. I know some spots where berley gets yakka's and not crap.
flathead: look for drop off's and cast SP's
King fish: You tell me, cant find them
Bream: again look for structure /rocks on the sounder near the shore is where I have had most luck on bream. not many legal ones.
Leatherjackets: Cast in SP if you get many hits and your SP is eaten use a whiting hook and a strip of squid and chuck some berley to keep them there.
Jew fish: See King Fish
whiting: chuck yabbies on shallow sand flats. to shallow for sounder and would just scare them anyway so cast from the edges. No luck yet on legal whiting.
Other stuff: JUst luck if they bite
Snapper: See bream but more in open water.

I have started fishing in Australia end of december/januari this year so I am still trying to get to grips with Hacking and SP is only the last 2 months. So any help much appreciated.

Jack

well i have to write mine again

Lauching Spot: Dolands Bay If Heading OutSide Because It Is Closer To The Heads / If Fishing Inside Grey Point / Both On The Hacking

Fishing Spot: Port Hacking

Fish:

Flathead: Drop Offs ... Where There Are Scared Bait Fish etc

Bream: Deeper Bays ... Around Moored Boats

Whiting: Sand Bars Where There Are Yabbie Holes ...... Drop Offs

Tailor: Round Rocks .... Deeper Water ... Bays

Jewfish: You Tell Me

KingFish: Again You Tell Me

Snapper: Where Ever You Put Your Bait

so us freshies in this too ?

Hmmmmmm !

I have been viewing fishing reports in regards to Pt Hacking for about a year or so now & quite frankly they more or less suck

I do fish the place on occasions but moreso to target whiting not saying Pt Hacking dosen't yield good fush but honestly think it's only a good place to get out of the wind & not a good regular fush producing spot.

Jewgong are a lazy fish & best fished for an hr either side of the tide that's when they come out of their holes they dont like fast current
Kungfush ?? well pt Hacking would be the last place I'd be going to target them

Breams ??? Well in the Hacking & up @ the Hawksbury where Bee's fush's it's very tidal oriented no different to Greenwell Pt where I fished last week there's only about an hr either side of the tied where you'll get constant action.

That's why I like the Bay they come on in spurts but you can virtually get your bream & snapper all day long again I stress I only like to fush afternoons simply because the tides are allways smaller & not as much run in the tides.

Suggest if you're going to fush the hacking you anchor up for the tide changes burley up catch your fush then go on the drift once a bite ends.

Hawkesbury ?? well I dont fush it much if @ all these days & I know the current rips though the river but you'll allways get a good feed of legal flatones if you get into the shallows where the tides dosen't race through SP's are the way to go if after the flatones

Yep Yep there's a few who fush the fresh here who do well & have a bit of knowledge

i think cod and bass are much the same they tend to stick too structures most of the time ,,,cod are unpredictable, most of the time they wont strike unless out of aggression ,but then of a night you can catch them almost anywhere ,,,,,ill leave bass to steve p ,,,,trout i find better in rapids ,but they tend only to be smaller fish ,whereas the bigger ones you have to work the bigger holes most of the time ,,,,yellow belly and silver perch and redfin will wonder around lookin and are pretty easy to catch ,,usually when ya get one of these 3 fish you will get more ,especially redfin ans silver perch as they tend to school ,yellow belly tend to get around in 3-4 fish per mob ,,,they tend to be 1 big female and the rest little males following her ,,,,typical male only want 1 thing ,,,, bait for these are pretty much the same for all wood grubs or willow grubs are great for cod and big big trout ,freshwater crayfish or crawbobs are great for all of these fish as is the plain old garden worm,worms are the best bait for redfin and silverperch ,,,the poor old carp can nearly be caught on anything that comes to mind ,,,,

Jumpy, got it pretty right.

I rarely anchor up, prefer to drift in the Hacking.

I don't have a sounder and judge the depth but the time it takes for the sinker to drop.

Burley, burley, burley brings the fish to you. Most important is to have some baits down the bottom and float some (may need 1 split lead to get it under).
Type of burley and bait is important for me, pellets and squid.

Depending on the tide flow close to structures and the shore you will find Leatherackets.

And I prefer either side of high tide late in the afternoon.

Well as everyone would know now, i mainly fish the Georges River...

Firstly cause it close to home, calm waters even with wind and seems to be abundant with a number of species...
Has been providing plentiful Bream, flathead, tailor, whiting and some big Trevally caught last Friday.

In the last year or so i have picked up some great knowledge from this site, locals and of course first hand experience in trying many spots. I think now i have a bit of know how on where and when best to fish the river.

Main baits are chicken & prawns on light tackle.

Como - is best fished 2 hours either side of tides. Also early morning and late afternoon has been very good of late.
Taren Point (Captain Cooks bridge) has been fishing very well late at nights. Either tide has been good
Tom Uglys - Either tide provides Bream & Tailor.
The Moons - last year was very rewarding with bream and whiting, but not sure why this year has been very slow.

Very good guess is all the rain we've been having, no need for the fish to travel up the river looking for food & I'm expecting a good few months in the Bay fush wise

I fish upper Parra river and it's all about the tides and looking (actually looking) for the fish and fishy spots.

Another reason for launching in hacking for me is that solo launching and retrieving on the ramp at tom ugly and sylvania are not as easy as grays point.

Is there a boat ramp at kurnell that is easy to use and has decent parking?

Jack

Never used the ramp @ kurnel Jack so cant comment
Have seen it from the water & it looks like it had a good size parking area.

Dont know how much it costs but St George Motor Boat Club has exellent facility's to launch from
But you need to be a member in order to use the ramps etc

I have no probs lauching from the hole in the wall boat ramp @ Sylvania there's been work getting done to it but dont know if they've finished the works.

Jumpy,

"the hole in the wall boat ramp @ Sylvania" is that the one at Hawkesbury Esp?

If so Jack it is a good ramp but if the tide is running and you don't drive your boat on it would be a little bit harder than Grays Point, as the ramp is steeper.
The new floating pontoon should be operational now.

steep is not a problem I don't think. I have not yet gone into the phase where I'd be driving my boat onto the trailer. So if there is a pontoon nearby where I can tie up the boat ,get my car and pull my boat on a rope to the trailer I'm happy.The trailer centres the keel so even if it comes in on an angle, the moment I start winching it pulls straight

Jumpy: what is your method of finding fish? anchor up and berley let the fish come to you?

Jack

Hole in the wall does have a very good wharf you can tie off to & ramp is 2 lane

It's to much drama towing my bigger boat there pt Botany is only just down the road.

But if there's any hint of a southerly & I want to fish the towra area in the wittle boat I'll tow all the way over there every time.



Yep Yep

Find reefs & drop offs with sounder thats all but I leave the sounder on all day & if fushing for reds I can even tell you when you're about to get a bite just ask those who've fished with me

Pointless looking for fish on the sounder unless you're trying to locate baitfish

Fish swim around all day & if you drop anchor when fish are under the boat on the sounder then by the time you're picked in they are gone

And how about flatheads? surely they do not come up a berley trail do they??

Jack

They will moreso cause your burley attracts small fishy's & commotion but only expect a few flatty's to do that.

Flathead are best fushed for on the drift & I cant flaw using lures on them as your covering a larger are.

I've found with flathead they hang around in pockets once you've found where they're @ it's virtually one after the other

I am landed based fisher person, normally off the rocks.

When I want to try a new area I first look at what could be possible fish feeding area. This is a though process that I follow. Where the wave comes to the shore and where the water returns to the ocean is where you want to fish from. Easy to get the Bearly trail going and it does take it out for you.

You look at what would be safe to fish from and what would be your quick exit. Do not run walk fast

Then when you think you found a place you look to see what underwater rocks if any etc.

Now that I have given some background here is where I go.

In Sydney

I have fished:-

South Head for Kingfish and caught Trevally
Green point and caught Snapper and Bream????
Watsons Bay wharf and caught whiting
Clovelly Inside and outside the bay and caught Trevally, One Bream, Salmon, Luderick, Rock Blackfish, Sweep, Leather Jacket, yellowtail, Nannygai (must have gotten lost), Red Morwong, Pike
Avoid Gordons Bay too many rocks
Coogee (South) from clift - Stupid rock cods
South Coogee (A place we call splash rock, Because you get splashed.) Luderick, Sweep, yellowtail
Lureline (You catch fish only if you pray real hard) Sweep, Bream, Squid, Leather Jackets
Malabar (Long Bay) Bream, Sweep, Leather Jacket, and you do see a lot of interesting sea life (Dolfins)
La Perouse Bream, Sweep
Yarra Bay - Bloody Crab just would not get off the line.
Molineaux Point - Rock Blackfish, Bream, Mado, Snapper
Kyeemagh (north and south of the cooks river) bream, snapper, whitting, yellowtail

I think that I should stop here. I drive to the coast and then look at what the waves are doing before I consider to start fishing or move somewhere else. I have a very large option based on the wind as well. You do not want to try and cast into the wind you have to use heavier sinker.

I fish in the Nerriga River... We catch Marlin and Flathead... they swin up river and have extra fight from swimming aganst the current.. The ones that avoid the bundy bears become large and hungary and can be caught most friday nights when you spend enough time with the cask of tawny port!

LIVE IN THE SHIRE FISHED PORT HACKING ALL OVER AND BOTANY BAY NOT TO SHOOT DOWN PORT HACKING BUT ALWAY DO JUST THAT LITTLE BIT BETTER OF ALL IN BOTANY BAY WHY ??? USE SAME BAIT SAME LINES/RODS/HOOKS ..AND FIND I ONLY CATCH MORE BLUE SWIMMERS IN PORT HACKING MAYBE CAUSE OF TRAPS ARE BANNED ..........

I was taking the piss out of the flattie_hunter in another thread in regards to some fish caught in the Hacking a Jewgong in particular.

Dontthink alot of you guys are aware but my boats get used as a bit of a testing platform for fishing products & I dont mind one little bit cause I get to try out alot of the new gear that comes out + alot of the old stuff as well.

One of the reasons alot of my old gear has been coming up in the Auction Forum most of it still pretty brand new.

Now in regards to the Hacking & the fish that get caught there !

I was asked to go fush the place this arvo but had prior a commitment I've got a day out wide in the morn.

@ present just about every wharf in the hacking yields wittle frogmouth pilchards.

One of the products I'm supposed to be testing are these fish skin bait jigs but not my style of fushing but the very small ones are whats been catching these frogmouths ideal live bait for alot of species like jew , kungs , flathead etc.

I have a couple of box's & will prob put them up in Auctions later.

Now if anyone is in a big hurry to go get some from the tackle stores make sure you're buying the fish skin ones with tinsel on them as there's imitation brands just made from poly's boat type material.

If you see the Viva label on them ? they are the genuine japanese product.

Now where to anchor up ???????????

Virtuaully any rocky dropoff which drops down to say 6 meters + is a good spot to try & prob the best way of finding such dropoffs if you're not familiar with the area is to use Google earth.

Look for the darker greener water , the shallow sand bars are easy to spot