Adventure Bound Options

[Jumpus GooDarus]

I'm not a fan of slow tapered rods for anything, I know they have their uses but not for me.

They make great Squiddy Rods

[Christos]

Now don't go and tell people that. They might actually but one to use for squid.

[Fed]

I watched strikezone last night and it was OK, I was hoping for more underwater pics of fish in their natural habitat.
On the upside it looks like it will be about fishing in the Sydney area which I find more interesting than shows about other states.
Hope they do one in Botany Bay.

[kkw]

I particularly liked his comments on not wasting time catching yakkas on bait jigs - rather use the old handline etc.
Also very impressive with the use of sports gear - like 80lb braid and 100lb leaders for 50cm kingies
Aside from that, it was still interesting to see local waters and other methods. I have a spool of 150lb mono, if you want some leader material, Fed. Just let me know.

[Jumpus GooDarus]

I watched strikezone last night and it was OK,

Ewe must be fooken yoking Fed

It was a joke, another cowboy showing off his roping techniques did not see wun foot of drag peel off the tackle

@ least my mate Mal McLassie knows how to build a boat

I particularly liked his comments on not wasting time catching yakkas on bait jigs - rather use the old handline etc.

Bullshite
takes 5 minutes to fill up the live bait tank using bait jigs

like 80lb braid and 100lb leaders for 50cm kingies

Had the wittle shits plaguing aroung the boat 2day I must be doing sum ting wrong cause my 3 kg outfits managed not to lose a single kung

[Fed]

C'mon Twiggy doncha know real men use 80Lb+ line for Kings.

[catchnrelease]

I think you need to Google fast tapered rods, slow tapered rods & parabolic curves C&R then you will understand your last post is a complete contradiction of terms.

I'm not a fan of slow tapered rods for anything, I know they have their uses but not for me.

You rate Kingfish as low in stamina that surprises me, I'd put them in the top 20% easily.
I'd like to see the big list of fish you think out perform them in the stamina stakes.

Slow, parabolic, whatever. What I meant was a rod that bends all the way to the grips (to a certain extent). You don't want a noodle though, the fish has to work to load up the rod. What I definitely know is that when I go jigging I prefer my more 'parabolic' jig rod as it's easier to jig.

Also kings definitely don't have a lot of stamina. They run very hard and fast, sure, but the runs are never long and you can get one up pretty quick as long as it doesn't dust you. In deep water 100m+ they only fight in the bottom 20m and top 20m, everything in between they give up and just come up with you.

This post has been edited by catchnrelease: May 8 2010, 01:19 AM

[Jumpus GooDarus]

I prefer my more 'parabolic' jig rod as it's easier to jig.

Googlefushy not really the case, only difference is not as much line gets retrieved onto the reel cause the rod takes the shock of the retrieves & if you're using a high geared reel you're defeating the purpose.

As a squid rod the slow tapered are much better suited as they absorb the impact of jig leaving it in the zone alot longer

Also kings definitely don't have a lot of stamina.

No they dont have stamina, BUT 95% of the time it's a straight up & down fight rendering the slow tapered rods infectictive.

I do have a pair or 2 of very similar rods they were using in the show in the LOX range & dont really like them @ all alot of energy used for very little result

[catchnrelease]

Googlefushy not really the case, only difference is not as much line gets retrieved onto the reel cause the rod takes the shock of the retrieves & if you're using a high geared reel you're defeating the purpose.

As a squid rod the slow tapered are much better suited as they absorb the impact of jig leaving it in the zone alot longer

Has nothing to do with line speed retrieve, it's easier to jig coordinately. When you load up the rod properly on the downstroke the line isn't completely loose and on the upstroke the rod helps to 'flick' the jig back up. So not about speed, just keeping it coordinated. And by load up I don't mean like it would on a fish, but the rod has to flex a bit or else you'll have loose line everywhere when you pick up pace.

Mind you, these slower rods are only really good on heavier lines where super heavy drags would kill you if the rod was too stiff. Make it longer and that hurts even more, and you also lose a lot of shock absorbance if it's too stiff and short.

This post has been edited by catchnrelease: May 10 2010, 03:05 AM

[Jumpus GooDarus]

and you also lose a lot of shock absorbance if it's too stiff and short

No you dont cause the 1st 3rd of the rod takes that shock & @ that time your not hooked up so shock is irrellevant

Watched the show again last week & for the life of me couldn't understand why he didn't use handlines to gather bait, instead he opted to use those bloody useless bait jigs

Other than that it was actually a very goodarus show, haven't done any skipbaiting myself for over 20 years or so so cant really knock his methods they worked fine.

What did catch my eye was he handled the rod very well using thumb to sandwich line to foregrip for that added lifting pressure, no hands on foregrip when retrieving line under no load simple hand over reel using 2 fingers as a level winder.

Unlike that 1st timer he reminded me of salty 1st time he was on a fish
That happens with 1st timers they're scared to let go of the rod & end up doing it the hard way

On another note there's a show on TVS on mundays 8.30 pm called Spear the menu, well worth having a looky @
I was a spearo & into scuba well b4 taking up fishing being in the water me tinks gives me a different idea of what goes on down there to most
Anyways this weeks show was about kungs & it was actually interesting how they used a flasher to attract the kungs to come to them

[catchnrelease]

No you dont cause the 1st 3rd of the rod takes that shock & @ that time your not hooked up so shock is irrellevant

You lose shock absorbance when you hook up a fish if you were using a very powerful, short and stiff rod that was tapered quite quickly, as opposed to a rod that's just as powerful but more parabolic. Fortunately there are no jig rods that are short, powerful and unnecessarily stiff that I can find.

Watched the show again last week & for the life of me couldn't understand why he didn't use handlines to gather bait, instead he opted to use those bloody useless bait jigs

Other than that it was actually a very goodarus show, haven't done any skipbaiting myself for over 20 years or so so cant really knock his methods they worked fine.

What did catch my eye was he handled the rod very well using thumb to sandwich line to foregrip for that added lifting pressure, no hands on foregrip when retrieving line under no load simple hand over reel using 2 fingers as a level winder.

Sure you're not talking about Strikezone with Al McGlashan?

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Fortunately there are no jig rods that are short, powerful and unnecessarily stiff that I can find.

I've got 2 exeptional blanks which would make the ideal Kig stick, you wont find them anywhere but not into jigging so couldn't be bothered building them up

Sure you're not talking about Strikezone with Al McGlashan?

Yep that was who I was waffling about much better show than the dud 1st wun

Spear the menu is a different show all together

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Watched that Mal McLassie show this arvo
They were chasing SBT off Bermi, think he had a stiffy all day cause he didn't even attempt any of that poor humour he allways attempts

Was a bit surprised by his comments that it was the best days fishing he'd had cause in my books days like that are very common when the fish are about maybe he was refering to jumping in water to film them buggered if I could make him out.

Underwater footage was not pretty good but nothing you cant see on a no wind day looking @ the tuna in your burley trail

Anywun watch that David Attenborough show last night think it was called Deep Blue ?????????

That has got to be sum of the best underwater footage of Marlin/Tuna feeding that I've seen

Back on the Strikezone show again it's my tastes but cant say I liked the action of the game rods they were using very soft for the line class & alot of hard work if a fish were to plug down deep

[Fed]

I saw a couple of minutes of that deep blue show right near the end Jumpy, did you see the squid swimming backward & forward using their little side fins?
Reverse thrust indeed. HaHaHaHa!

[Jumpus GooDarus]

did you see the squid swimming backward & forward using their little side fins?
Reverse thrust indeed. HaHaHaHa!

That was the lithiam crystals powering up the turbo thrusters Fed

The wittle squiddys do that just B4 they engage Warp Drive & disappear into Hypospace

[Seafairy]

That was the lithiam crystals powering up the turbo thrusters Fed

The wittle squiddys do that just B4 they engage Warp Drive & disappear into Hypospace

Now that sounds more like the NCC-1701 NOT the Harrier JJ as you were describing last week.

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Yeah !
Well if my grandmother had wheels she would've been a wagon wouldn't she

Actually watch Adventure Bound 2nite

And for the life of me couldn't work out how in hell that Andrew Chappy was out gunning that Lee Chappy fushing for Reds in Mexicoland

Personally I think the Andrew Chappy has been doing a sneaky sneaky visiting ozstyle & stealing all my secrets.

Cause there was the evidance right in front of my earsight, those hu watched the show would've noticed 2 drinks on the baitboard the Lee Chappy had a girly drink a bloody Pepsi of all things

Where as the Andrew Chappy had a bottle of

Actully it was wun of their better shows, that's the sort of snappa fushing I enjoy both the Chappy's got it spot on when they explained there is no need to ever strike @ a fush when it takes the bait, mind ewes they did put emphasis this method used on circle hooks but I've found same method on non circle hooks

[boris]

I think that Lee chappy is good and he makes a difference

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Big difference I said that from the start

Rest of them are pretty much cowboys esp on big fish sum of the things they do is utter nonsense

[Fed]

I wish they'd turn off their clickers while they're fighting a fish.