Level/incline Meter Options

[Fed]

I just don't get it

I think that ship has sailed for you Poly.

[storms72]

I use a spirit level and laser level for work fed, maybe you could attach a laser to your outboard and a spirit level to your dash- line them up and that's as close to a wireless system as you will get, I use this method when wall mounting speakers mid wall.

[Fed]

That's where I started Storms, thinking of a temporary set up simply for testing purposes.
Then I thought why not make it permanent because of the potential spare hole in my dash if I remove the inaccurate voltmeter. That's now in the too hard basket, I was hoping for a 4x4 aftermarket 2" gauge & remote sensor but it doesn't look like anyone makes them.

Back to the temporary setup, I'm thinking a water gauge and joining the open ends together and half filling with coloured water (food dye).

Attach it to the motor, level the motor with a spirit level at the vent plate and mark the water level on the tube.

I want to be able to see it from the front of the boat so I don't change the planing attitude by having to walk down the back to see it otherwise I'd just glue a little spirit level on top of the motor then calibrate it to the vent plate.

After I've proved it I'll rent it to Jumpy so he can stop his boats leaning, plowing & porpoising all over the Bay, it must be embarrassing the hell out of him.

[nimrod]

Fed. except in displacement of the hull where full hull is in water, the motor levels itself, the thrust of the prop ensures it levels out, it is the boat that changes it's amount of levelness.
When displacing the hull your idea is no different then a trim/tilt guage.
Sure you CAN put different levels on the motor towards the water BUT doing this and watching a guage while doing it would just be frustrating and you wouldn't be consentration on where you were heading if you were playing around with a guage to try and keep the motor level with the water.
Not practical.

[Fed]

the motor levels itself

No mate the motor will push the back of the boat either up or down.

your idea is no different then a trim/tilt guage

No mate the standard trim gauge tells you the angle between the boat & the motor where as I'm talking about the angle between the motor & the water surface.

Sure you CAN put different levels on the motor towards the water BUT doing this and watching a guage while doing it would just be frustrating and you wouldn't be consentration on where you were heading if you were playing around with a guage to try and keep the motor level with the water.

I'm a multitasker.

Not practical.

Far more practical than a standard trim gauge where there is no reference point for the best setting.

Have you ever driven a cat & played around with the motor trim settings?

[nimrod]

OK Fed have it your way.

[poly]

sorry mate i just don't get it,

after all the years you have been driving boats, I think you should know when the boat is trimmed properly.

Paul

[Fed]

I believe I do know Poly but the question is, do we really know?

Put a trim question on any outside idiot forum and 100s of googleboys will jump in saying you don't need any gauges because you do it by feel, they wouldn't feel if their arse was on fire.

I want to put it to the test and compare actual readings with how I feel it should be trimmed.

[storms72]

Ok fed so by correctly trimming your engine you would get max speed-why not get out on the georges with a gps and have a bit of fiddle to see what trim gives you highest speed, only trouble with this is I expect varying conditions would require different trim to account for wind/swell conditions taking safety/comfort at speed into consideration.

[Fed]

It's like herding cats Storms that's why I say you need a starting point and the only reference I can see is start with the vent plate parallel to the water surface.

Let's say you have a brand new rig, where do you set your trim tab and where do you set your motor trim?

[storms72]

trim tab should be correctly set before you take posession and when on water test correct trim for flat water run should be shown-thats how it was done a few years ago when I worked in a boat yard, like I said GPS is the only way to attain highest speed which would indicate correct trim-many variables come into it FED-load on board, position of load on board, water conditions, etc.........

I'd be interested in knowing if anyone has played around with their trim tab to the extent where a mm or two actually makes a difference....Yamaha sends them out at what they say is correct position.

[Spudly]

you people all need to go fishing...

[Fed]

Bugger off Rumpus, go and find me a trimomatic 2" gauge & sender.
Have you been out at all mate?

There can't a correct position until a water test is done with normal loads and preferred cruising speed Storms, maybe Yamaha sort of pick an average position.

I doubt 1 or 2 mm would make a noticeable difference but much more than that sure does.

[Jumpus GooDarus]

You're a wanker Fed

[Fed]

Who let you out?
Been crook mate?

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Yep just getting over it have even been doing something you know very little about

It's called fishing & i haven't lost my touch

[Fed]

I'd know a lot more about fishing if you would help me but.... no.
Mingy bastard, glad you're feeling better.

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Think well enough strpped little goat down last couple of days
Looked @ it today thought duck fluck it not going to bother quicker to build a new wun

Now all i need to find is a Level/incline Meter so people can call me a goose

[storms72]

Bugger off Rumpus, go and find me a trimomatic 2" gauge & sender.
Have you been out at all mate?

There can't a correct position until a water test is done with normal loads and preferred cruising speed Storms, maybe Yamaha sort of pick an average position.

I doubt 1 or 2 mm would make a noticeable difference but much more than that sure does.

Thought I mentioned water test, we used to use gps onboard with boat buyer so correct trim could be set with the idea being to maximise cruising speed.

Went fishing last week rum, caught a few bass heres one of the better ones, getting late in the season so the 20+ fish a session has slowed a little as has the average size.

Water has been consistently brown for the last 4 months which has made it harder than previous seasons...I'm looking forward to the colder months, early starts and some fat big resident bass.

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[Jumpus GooDarus]

Went fishing last week rum, caught a few bass heres one of the better ones

You're bloody hopeless

Had ewe had one of those Level/incline Meters ewe would've caught alot more wittle fishy's

It's well documented fact