Downrigging, what do I need Options

[Sir Reel]

Im looking at getting a downrigger or 2 and dont know much about them, so i need your help.

I fish saltwater mainly for Snapper and trawl for kings in the summer months, with the odd trip out to the shelf for Tuna.

I can afford to get 1 top of the range downrigger which i can connect threw cannon link to my hummingbird fishfinder. This would alow me to control the depth at the helm and be viewed on the fishfinder.

option 2 Get a standard electric version for about half that.

option 3 Get one or even two manual downriggers. (do you get tangles when running two downriggers?)

What would you do and why?

[Jumpus GooDarus]

I can afford to get 1 top of the range downrigger which i can connect threw cannon link to my hummingbird fishfinder.

Wouldn't waste my Drakma on those no need for them, sounder will show true depth & linking link will deviate drastically depending on weight of bomb with speed you're trolloping faster ewe trollop higher bomb will rise to the surface giving an inaccurate read.

option 2 Get a standard electric version for about half that.

Electric are far better esp if out on your own all it takes is a push of the button

option 3 Get one or even two manual downriggers. (do you get tangles when running two downriggers?)

Nope just stay with the wun

I do have a pair of Scotty2Hotty's but very rare ever use both wun is more than enough ewe wont get tangles & realistically ewe really only want wun girly fush on @ a time.

Make sure rigger ewe get has a swivel base & dont do wot so many do & go oversize on bombs

7lb is more than enough in swallow water down to 20 meters anything deeper go up to the 10 lb'r

[Sir Reel]

Thanks Jumpy
i have narrowed it down to 2 models if going for a manual down rigger

this one



downrigger is made of marine grade alloy and stainless steel, then anodized with a silver and black finish. No plastic anywhere, excepting the Nylon® boom rollers. Here’s some pictures of both the manual and electric versions, you can see it in operation here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLRlRUNgUfU

and here, off Sydney:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb_BonViTm4













And here's some of its important features:

A 950mm one piece boom, one of the longest in the business. This helps to keep your cable and weight well clear of the prop and transom. The boom tilts and locks into the vertical position, meaning you don't have to reach out over the water- which can be risky- to attach the line from your reel. The tilt and lock also helps when maneuvering around wharves, or similar;



A boom head, which swivels around the top of the boom arm.



This is a really good feature. The boom head on our downrigger swivels on greased needle rollers to track the weight and cable. This means the cable doesn’t ride up the side of the boom head rollers when the boat makes a sudden turn;

A detachable, resettable depth counter. This unit reads down to 1000 feet and resets at the touch of a button.



THIS counter can be quickly removed from your downrigger and mounted on a jig rod (no tools required.) If you’re using expensive knife jigs over a reef or wreck, where you know the depth of the structure from your depth sounder, you can sink the sinking jig a few feet short of the snag by keeping an eye on the counter readout. We’ve found this technique is a real money saver. (The counter is available separately for $20, inc P&P.)

AN aluminium rod holder, attached to the rear of the downrigger. The holder is adjustable for angle with a screwdriver, and has a cross pin for securing mounting of rods fitted with a gimbal slot base;



TWO hundred feet of 200-pound Dyneema braid. Braid is narrower than steel cable and doesn’t hum, in the water. More braid or cable can be added if you plan to fish deeper water.



A Du-bro Shock Kit, on the end of the braid. These kits feature a compressible spring, which means if you wind your weight up quickly (as often happens, after a strike) the Shock Kit will protect against your weight banging into the end of the boom;



A long shaft gimbal mount is attached to your downrigger’s base. It fits straight into your boat’s rod holder:




The base is made from solid aluminium, not tube, and is very strong. Note that rodholder fitted downriggers should not be fitted into plastic rodholders. Use a strong aluminium or stainless steel rodholder, available at any marine shop. An alternative option is our detachable tongue and groove base mounting kit:





Price of the manual downrigger complete (as described above) is $425, including delivery. Price of the electric version is $695. That one has a powerful electric motor fitted that pulls up 20-pound plus weights easily. Ours has a circuit breaker rather than glass fuses (like the Scottys) for overload protection. Let me know what else you need to know? If you want to let me know your mailing address I’ll send you a free DVD showing it in operation. Thanks for your inquiry,

[Sir Reel]

Or this one



They are built to take a 7 - 8lbs bomb max reccomendation the booms are 750mm long and the spool can take alot of line however we sell with 150yd 250lbs dyneema braid .

We have sold quite a few to sydney siders who chase the kings .

They are built from alloy and powdercoated black.

They sell in the shops for $500.00 but i could let you have one for $350.00 .

i can also do you a gimbal mount to fit in your rod holder .

The gimbals sell for $100.00 i could let you have one for $50.00.

I will also throw in a couple of release clips

[Jumpus GooDarus]

A bit of nonsense by the mob advertising them but they all do it rivial tings that mean nut ting like this wun

A 950mm one piece boom, one of the longest in the business. This helps to keep your cable and weight well clear of the prop and transom. The boom tilts and locks into the vertical position,

My Scotty2Hotty's exend out to 1500mm but never bother to extend them as there is no need mne also tilt back but find that to be a pain is the arse esp on my goats with walk out transoms.

Find it best to have a swivel base aimed out around 40 degrees & have the s/s wire run through a slider thingy thats alot easier than pulling bomb in over the transom

Not a good pic but ewe should get the idea yellow thingy is the slider tied off to goat with black cord, I just pull it when I want the bomb

http://www.fishingozstyle.info/forums/inde...?showtopic=2336

[Sir Reel]

Yep I saw that post and knew you were the man to ask.
What model scotty is that you are using?

[Jumpus GooDarus]

These wuns

http://www.bassermillyard.com.au/ShowArtic...p?ArticleId=151

As ewe use them more & more ewe start to develope your own thought's on how to down rig

Dont take wot peeps say as gospel alot talk utter crap caught a small handfull of fish & have become experts

[Sir Reel]

I can get one for $649 delivered from the us. Is that a good price?
Can i get it a gimble mount for it to sit in a rod holder?
What is the size of the mounting? as I have limited realestate on the stern
its the SCOTTY 1106 DEPTHPOWER 60" TELE ELECTRIC W/ HOLDER SWIVEL

SKU # : Scotty_1106

cant see a price on that link as they dont sell to the public

[Jumpus GooDarus]

cant see a price on that link as they dont sell to the public

No they dont, they're the importers

I can get one for $649 delivered from the us. Is that a good price?

Velly good plice, suppose to retail up around $1,500 over here

Also bear in mind wot you'll get is everthing complete minus the bomb in the package

[Sir Reel]

Here is the link for cheap imports
http://www.jandhproducts.com/_e/dept/12-00...Downriggers.htm

[Sir Reel]

So how big is the mount and can i get a gimble mount for it

[Spudly]

Have bought GPS dog tracking gear from J&H a few times and they were GREAT!! Cheap and delivery was about 1 week...

[Sir Reel]

Thanks Chad,
Was there any extra hidden costs in delivery etc.

[jack]

I ordered my fishfinder from JandH and was quite happy with price and delivery. No issues and as long as you stay below 1000 bucks (Aus) there should not be any import duties.
You may have extra costs if there is a warranty issue though, but at half the local price you can always buy a new one :-)

Jack

[Spudly]

yea stay below $1000 to avoid import costs.....

They were great to deal with (j&h) I bought straight off their website after sending a few emails to confirm details and they were more than helpfull....

Pretty sure that the postage costs are calculated when you put your details into the website and Ya pay by CC and thats it..

[Sir Reel]

cool
will just have to work out what unit I want now

[Jumpus GooDarus]

So how big is the mount and can i get a gimble mount for it

Went out for a fush 2day & took sum pics of the setup

Ewe wouldn't believe it I left camera back in the goat & not going back to get it

Still flesh in my memory base is around 120 mm sq

Not sure wot ewe mean by gimble mount ?????????????????????????????????

[Jumpus GooDarus]

cool
will just have to work out what unit I want now

If you're gunna use it alot go electric

Else just get a wind up handle all down riggers are is a device to lower & raise bait nothing more irrellevant of wot manufacturer's try spining you

[Sir Reel]

Went out for a fush 2day & took sum pics of the setup

Ewe wouldn't believe it I left camera back in the goat & not going back to get it

Still flesh in my memory base is around 120 mm sq

Not sure wot ewe mean by gimble mount ?????????????????????????????????

The gimble mount is a mount for the downrigger to sit on that slides into a rod holder



makes it easy to move around the boat and takes up less room when you dont have room for a standard mount

[Sir Reel]

Well you took the effort to take some pics for me
Maybe I will get lucky and you will post them up for me