Interested In Upgrading Boat Options

[nimrod]

It will pop up & completely drain itself Rumpus, you could push it to the bottom of the ocean & it would still pop up & drain itself.

BUT not because it has a self draining system. All a self draining system does is allow water to escape and travel to a lower area. GRAVITY won't allow water to flow up hill, only pressure of some kind will.
Bouyancy NOT drainage is what floated the boat.

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Jumpy. this bit confushes me a tab, by Lecky It is my assumption you mean a electric outboard/trolling motor ?. If this IS the meaning, it is my belief that electric motors are bolted in some fashion to the upper bow position of the boat. ( some are transom mount, but i'm sure we are not talking about that format here ).
Could you explain ( in english so my tiny little brain could obsorb your explanation ) WHY the floor would be sitting lower than normal because of an electric outboard.
If I am wrong in my assumption ( which may well be the case ) then what do you mean by floor lower to accommidate electric ? do wires run under floor and therefor need to have LESS space between cavities.
Please explain!!!

From memory all explained in build thread

Quick version after taking 1st boat out for a run was easy to access what i wanted in my boat noted the floor level in conjuction floor level that boat wont cop any water coming though transom but that boat also had no transom door.

What i did on mini me was cut down frames by 60 mm which allowed me to lower floor level which in turn allowed me to also cut down sideskinsby around 80mm from memory this in turn allowed the mounting of lecky, longest shaft lecky is a 60 inch.

Now yung gosling think he's clever maybe one day he may learn he cant take on the might of Jumpus

Thought he'd be a smart arse but anybody of sound mind knows you cant take on Jumpus just ask me i'll tell ewe

Like i allready said mini me was built to my tastes & specs not to carry an extra approx 300 kg all aft with 150 kg of fuel also aft add to that lbt built into floor & not expect water to wash in onto the wet deck but just as quick as it wash's in it also washes out unless weight is transfered to bow.

That's the beaut thing with plate boats you can order them to your specs & dont have to contend with what comes out of the mould

[jack]

another question,

Bowriders come with outboard en mercruisers and I like the looks of the mercruisers (not having that big block sitting on the back)
I can think of a lower centre of gravity as a possible advantage of an inboard which may make it better in handling. but you loose a bit of internal space.
Are there any other opinions out there between the two?


Jack

[Fed]

Put it this way Frank if you go and sink a quintrex it will pop back up to the gunnels but Jumpy's boat will pop back up to where is started from. Sure it's buoyancy but without a self draining deck it won't fully float again by itself.

[Fed]

I'd go the outboard Jack leave the mercruisers for bigger boats.

I did have one and had no complaints at all but it was in a 20.5' boat.

[nimrod]

Put it this way Frank if you go and sink a quintrex it will pop back up to the gunnels but Jumpy's boat will pop back up to where is started from. Sure it's buoyancy but without a self draining deck it won't fully float again by itself.

Fed Are you telling me IF you get a quintrex that will float up to it's gunwales and you cut some holes in it's transom that boat would then magically rise to floor level.
Think about it a little . That is what you are saying. Think about it for a while..
So just think about it for a while.

It IS buoyancy, with the help of floatation of sorts that float a boat.

Think about it for a while.
Maybe a few more time and you might see where you are mistaken with the idea that self draining will float a boat.
Again THING ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE.

[jack]

I'd go the outboard Jack leave the mercruisers for bigger boats.

I did have one and had no complaints at all but it was in a 20.5' boat.

you had no problems with it but would not recommend it...why?

what makes them good in 20' and not ok in 16-17'

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Jack wouldn't touch a mercruise
Thirsty, weight issue just 2 probs
To work on another bitchb the list goes on

[Spudly]

Put it this way Frank if you go and sink a quintrex it will pop back up to the gunnels but Jumpy's boat will pop back up to where is started from. Sure it's buoyancy but without a self draining deck it won't fully float again by itself.

I dont think it would fed.. when it got water in it with 3 of us aboard we have to move our weight to get it to drain the water.. If all the water is sitting up front its not going to drain itself without either forward momentum or us shifting to remove it.. A fully self draining boat will rid itself of water no matter what.

Mini me is ALMOST SELF DRAINING..

I find myself agreeing with Frank here...

Like i allready said mini me was built to my tastes & specs not to carry an extra approx 300 kg all aft with 150 kg of fuel also aft add to that lbt built into floor & not expect water to wash in onto the wet deck but just as quick as it wash's in it also washes out unless weight is transfered to bow.

Im not trying to take you on but believe whatever you like... Just puttin forward my view as i see it, and personally Id call that a design flaw... If i was to build a fishing boat Id make sure it can handle a bit of extra weight.. You never know who is going to be on board. But thats my opinion.. Its your boat but and if thats how you like it then fine.. Just seems to limit its use to much to me.

Tell me though, where does the 300kg come from? Your weigh 60kg? i weight 90kg but the boat was built to handle 2 right? Are you saying Vern weighs 300kg? I know he got a belly but it aint that big?

[Spudly]

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[Spudly]

God your annoying... Frustrating.. A know it all.....

None the less, its good entertainment... Once you get back out here Ill teach you how to shoot again anyway, And Pez might give ya some lessons on catching girly fish, I hear her pulled on up the other day!

Oh and PS....

I got you to bite, even though you said you dont, you probably wont admit it but just to remind you! Maybe I was taking the piss too.... Or maybe not ??

Never owned a plate boat but went in a stabi and your within a few days and recon the stabi would eat your for breakfast too.. tongue.gif tongue.gif

I dont particularly care what boats people have or own

I'm just goodarus @ taking the piss out of peeps laugh.gif
The question in this thread was in regards to a plate boat & here you all are throwing everything from plastic to glass @ poor jack laugh.gif

Spud you can reckon all you like you've yet to do any serious boating/fishing offshore to form an opinion on which boat would have another for breakfast

[storms72]

Jack, been on a few with inboards-consider the limitation of how low the engine actually would mount on the boat you are considering and the difference between inboard and outboard would be minimal........JG has some good points on weight and economy........
Best advice I could offer is to wait a few months-dealers are always keen to work harder to sell once the peak season has finished....Beware of the amazing deal at the boat show-personally found better deal from my local poly dealer on a 4.8 than at last years boat show.

[Fed]

Fed Are you telling me IF you get a quintrex that will float up to it's gunwales and you cut some holes in it's transom that boat would then magically rise to floor level.

Yes providing there was enough floatation under the floor.

[Fed]

you had no problems with it but would not recommend it...why?

what makes them good in 20' and not ok in 16-17'

Just my own opinion Jack there's something just not right about a sterndrive in a small boat to me.

I have to say mine was very quiet up to about 3/4 throttle & very smooth but the dog box did intrude a fair bit being a 6 cylinder.

As was already said they are pretty heavy compared to outboards of the same HP.

I'd think an outboard would hold its resale value better than a sterndrive too.

[Bees Knees]

Sterndrives take up fishing space... If you dont fish and you ski, they'd be great to sit on!!

[jack]

Heavy, trickier to work on & thirsty, : that is useful thanks.

Waiting a few months: was planning to anyway. Using the boat show to have a look at different boats not neccesarily to buy, but when I have all my prices and info before than I might get a bargain.

Taking up fishing space: Also pointed out in my question but that is than indeed offset by having a good sundeck to lounge on when not fishing or sitting on when just wetting a line in the bay. This boat will be a compromise so please keep that in mind.

Keep them replies coming

Thanks

Jack

[Fed]

I never found mine hard to work on and being close to 20 years old when I got it there was a bit to do.
Just another learning curve.
I replaced drive water impeller (RWC), reco'd top gearbox, replaced shift cable, drive exhaust & shift bellows, figured out and fixed shift interrupt system, R&Rd riser, fixed auto choke & fixed hole in sump. Also got the trim rams reco'd by the marina.
This boat was moored for the best part of 20 years so you'd expect a few things to be wrong with it but once it was on a trailer I found it easy to work on.
I don't think you'd have to touch a new one for at least 10 years.
In the right boat I've got nothing but praise for them, I wouldn't mind one in say a 19' Haines.
Without a doubt they'd be more economical than a carby 2 stroke.

[jack]

what is more quiet? I/O or 4 stroke O/B

Jack

[Fed]

I haven't owned a 4 stroke OB Jack but I'll take a shot and say the OB would be quieter than the IO.

[poly]

there is another plus to consider, and that is the fact you don't need a marine mechanic to work on an inboard motor.

Paul