Interested In Upgrading Boat Options

[jack]

Dont pay attention to the Gosling Jack
He's just got the poo's i wouldn't sell him Mini Me & had to settle for a 1/2 boat that's what you get when you spend 1/2 the money a platey is worth

Just got back from up the club ran into skip who owns the 5.8 centre cab 4nossa 140hp Boozuki 4 stroke on back Alloy trailer etc jumped on board not a bad boat @ all

Cost him around the $65 k mark

Yeah they are not the cheapest, so I will be looking at other brands as well. but a 5.2 or maybe 5.5 with a 90-100 4 stroke should be a bit cheaper :-)

on another note. These boats get made in 2 varieties. the classic and the tomahawk series. The tomahawk series among other things has a self draining floor which I think is very handy when outside and things do get rough. What are the advantages for self draining floor?

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Yep this was the Tomahawk
Alloy trailers aren't cheap either

[Spudly]

What are the advantages for self draining floor?

He's just got the poo's i wouldn't sell him Mini Me & had to settle for a 1/2 boat that's what you get when you spend 1/2 the money a platey is worth laugh.gif

Depends if you get self draining in or out... Mini Me has one on the backwards ones that the boat fills up with water when you stop..

So did you catch any fish or what JG? Even the pezmonster got amongst the kings today!

[quintrex101]

The good thing about alloy is the resale value, if you paid 40k and used the boat for 5 years you'd still get over 30k for it considering you looked after it

Also consider with the 550 i think you'd be close to having to have a dual axle trailer am i right ?

This post has been edited by quintrex101: Jan 25 2012, 06:38 AM

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Depends if you get self draining in or out... Mini Me has one on the backwards ones that the boat fills up with water when you stop

Keep dreaming Gosling
The day you can ketch me out is the day i'll kark it but hey keep trying

If ewe bothered paying attention in the build thread & Reading that which was written it was stated mini me was moded different to the other 2 & the floor level was welded in much lower to accomide the lecky.

mini me was also designed for jumpus to fish solo not to take 3 other people who each weigh virtually double what jumpus weighs

[Jumpus GooDarus]

So did you catch any fish or what JG? Even the pezmonster got amongst the kings today!

I know it's hard to believe but answeris no

For the 1st time in prob 15 year i actually felt seedy out there

Didn't want to be out there & came back in

[kkw]

Surprising. I thought it was very flat and smooth yesterday, but then I didn't look around the corner to see the NE swell Thought you would have been waterlogged, like I was. Didn't it pelt down at times yesterday. I only landed one fish - very poor.

[storms72]

Been looking around for a new car lately Jack and found this....might be a option if in a position to buy now otherwise keep an eye on the auction sites mate-grays, pickles and manheim fowles. We picked up my wifes car from Syd car auction for just over half its insured value.

http://www.pickles.com.au/general/item/-/d...about/352041451

[oz man]

What are you looking for in a car as the company I work for sells their cars each year once thay are3 years old.
They are fully maintained but have klm on them.
There should be 2 going for sale this year which are 2008 or 9 commodore Internationals. They ususlly sell from $9500 to $14000 depending on the trading offer.

[Fed]

What are the advantages for self draining floor?

If you accidentally sort of sink your boat it will pop up again.
Great for washing down you can throw heaps of water on the deck & it all just goes away.
If you're caught solo in bad weather and can't leave the helm you can piss on the floor if nature calls.

[nimrod]

Keep dreaming Gosling
The day you can ketch me out is the day i'll kark it but hey keep trying

If ewe bothered paying attention in the build thread & Reading that which was written it was stated mini me was moded different to the other 2 & the floor level was welded in much lower to accomide the lecky.
mini me was also designed for jumpus to fish solo not to take 3 other people who each weigh virtually double what jumpus weighs

Jumpy. this bit confushes me a tab, by Lecky It is my assumption you mean a electric outboard/trolling motor ?. If this IS the meaning, it is my belief that electric motors are bolted in some fashion to the upper bow position of the boat. ( some are transom mount, but i'm sure we are not talking about that format here ).
Could you explain ( in english so my tiny little brain could obsorb your explanation ) WHY the floor would be sitting lower than normal because of an electric outboard.
If I am wrong in my assumption ( which may well be the case ) then what do you mean by floor lower to accommidate electric ? do wires run under floor and therefor need to have LESS space between cavities.
Please explain!!!

[nimrod]

If you accidentally sort of sink your boat it will pop up again.Great for washing down you can throw heaps of water on the deck & it all just goes away.
If you're caught solo in bad weather and can't leave the helm you can piss on the floor if nature calls.

Fed I'm sure it would be nice if a boat would sort of pop up again after being sunk, but believe me that would have absolutely nothing to do with the self draining floor .
Once a self draining floor becomes lower than water lever it ceases to drain.

Self drain floor is a great assett for any boat, but the floor or at least the scarpers must be above water level.
My cruiser ( platie ) had self drain and it had sort of tennis balls engaged so that when you launched the boat the balls would float up and block the holes of the scarpers.
Very affective and was handy as that boat was moored and when it rained I didn't have to worry about covers or anything the rain would simply drain from the floor.

[poly]

The good thing about alloy is the resale value, if you paid 40k and used the boat for 5 years you'd still get over 30k for it considering you looked after it

Also consider with the 550 i think you'd be close to having to have a dual axle trailer am i right ?

if resale is the only consideration then if would have to be a poly, when I sold my boat after all costs had been add up I made $2.000 dollars clear profit, not bad for a plastic boat.

Paul

[Fed]

Your balls are only there to stop your feet getting wet if there\'s too many fat people sitting down the back Frank.
With a true self draining deck you could cut the sides off the boat at deck level & it would still float.
Jumpy reverses into the sea flooding his deck to clean it then his boat will just drain the water off.
I bet he doesn\'t even have any closeable scuppers on any of his boats.
Just checked the build threads, open holes at deck level as expected.

Edit: Minime has the a huge open scupper it's called a door.
http://www.fishingozstyle.com.au/forums/in...ost&id=1461

This post has been edited by Fed: Jan 25 2012, 05:43 PM

[nimrod]

Your balls are only there to stop your feet getting wet if there\'s too many fat people sitting down the back Frank.
With a true self draining deck you could cut the sides off the boat at deck level & it would still float.Jumpy reverses into the sea flooding his deck to clean it then his boat will just drain the water off.
I bet he doesn\'t even have any closeable scuppers on any of his boats.
Just checked the build threads, open holes at deck level as expected.

Edit: Minime has the a huge open scupper it's called a door.
http://www.fishingozstyle.com.au/forums/in...ost&id=1461

This has still got nothing to do with the self draining deck.
Once the scarpers are under water level they cease to function as a draining system.
Floatation and buoyancy is what keeps the boat afloat NOT the self draining aspect.
And I do believe we are talking about trailer boats in this topic, not full on trawlers.

[nimrod]

This has still got nothing to do with the self draining deck.
Once the scarpers are under water level they cease to function as a draining system.
Floatation and buoyancy is what keeps the boat afloat NOT the self draining aspect.
And I do believe we are talking about trailer boats in this topic, not full on trawlers.

OH and BTW to Jumpys outburst about NOOne of us ever owning a platie ( as in his mind, he is the only one that has ever owned or driven a plate boat ) here is just 1 of about 5 or 6 plate boats I have owned.

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That is a 4 tonne Canter truck that's towing it. Can show scarper self drain system if anyone interested.

[Fed]

When I talk about self draining decks Frank I mean a fully sealed deck where no water can get below the deck, I'm sure tour boat with the balls would have been like that otherwise there would be no point to it.

Let me give you an example, through a series of things going wrong and bad judgement I finished up anchored at the peak from the rear of the boat, swell + waves started coming over the transom.
Myself & 2 mates were standing at the bulkhead/steering wheel with the boat going under backwards at a 45 degree angle, the tops of both motors were 3 feet underwater and water was at our feet, we were going down fast.
I sent a volunteer down to cut the anchor rope and in less that 60 seconds we were fully afloat again.

Once the scarpers are under water level they cease to function as a draining system.
Floatation and buoyancy is what keeps the boat afloat NOT the self draining aspect.

If it wasn't self draining then the floatation/buoyancy wouldn't be able to lift the boat back out of the water. I think we're agreeing here just using different terms to express it.

BTW I think Jumpy lowered his gunnel/bow height to take a leccy then lowered the floor so he wouldn't fall out of his boat but wait for him to confirm that 100%.

[Spudly]

Ive had 3 boats with self draining hulls... they can be completly capsized and when righted they have no water in them! The back of the boats was completely open.

Have also had a boat which was not self draining but had scuppers with X ray sheets taped over the top edge, when water pressure pushed against them they sealed (pretty well) once underway they opened and all the water ran out of the boat.. you had to be underway though for it to drain...

In Mini Me's instance, is there enough buoyancy that if it was filled with water would it pop up and completely drain itself or would it stay with its deck below water. My guess is the second as with 3 people on the boat the deck drops below water level and a few inches of water run in.

[Fed]

It will pop up & completely drain itself Rumpus, you could push it to the bottom of the ocean & it would still pop up & drain itself.

[quintrex101]

Been looking around for a new car lately Jack and found this....might be a option if in a position to buy now otherwise keep an eye on the auction sites mate-grays, pickles and manheim fowles. We picked up my wifes car from Syd car auction for just over half its insured value.

http://www.pickles.com.au/general/item/-/d...about/352041451

Was browsing Pickles a few days ago myself and came across this boat as well. Looks like a really soild boat and you'd probably get it for a really good price. If you got it for 15k or under, a new 90HP four stroke would set you back around 13k last time i checked (Suzuki) even 12 for a 90 ETEC. Maybe spend 23k getting it fitted out, sounder, live bait tank rod holders etc and you'd have a great boat for around 30k

Edit: I know Toms dad has a very similar boat to this so i'm sure he'd have something to say about it !

This post has been edited by quintrex101: Jan 25 2012, 11:21 PM