Downrigging, what do I need Options

[Spudly]

No bars in JB mate... Huskison there is a small one but nothing like baitmans as its very protected.. Murrys beach just launch and go, mst of jb is fairly deep.. Only a few reefs on the edges (plantation point, Huskison, Callala and long beach but they very obvious.. rest of bay is sweet!

[Sir Reel]

Yes Fed & once a year I get to look @ my Shinus Headarus both of them

Only once a year
must b along time between drinks

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Unlike Sum
I get good milage

[Fed]

Is it even legal for Jumpy to electrocute fish, I think not.
Aspro Yamahahas

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm !

It's evident ewe spent the day polishing your Hed , Fed

Bright Sparks are flying evllywhere

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Looks like a great location, might have to plan a trip up that way.
We plan on going to Monagaue when the kingies come on. Bar seems better than the Bay here.
Whats the ramps & bar like at JB

Was nearly down there last Saturday
A mate who lives down the gong way rang late flyday apparantly there's sum big girly fush on the Banks @ present
Quick looky @ seabreeze was all thumbs up
I'd been out fushing last fliday & was pretty stuffed & didn't relish the idea of an early start so said no

[Sir Reel]

gr8 to hear there on,
looking forward to having my arms stretched
shame i have to work this weekend
Aparently it pissed down there most of last weekend
and more rain due this weekend too
always crapy weather when the kings come on

[Fed]

While the downrigger cable is in the water, there
is a minute electrical current that flows between the
cable and the grounded metal boat components in
the water. When the cable clears the water, this
current flow will stop. The Short Stop system senses
this interruption and turns off the motor.

The trolling
weight insulator is used to break the cable contact to
the water while the weight is still in the water. The
reel set screw allows the circuit path to be made
through the structure of the downrigger.

See that Jumpy?

[Jumpus GooDarus]

So wot ?????

Tell me this where is the current cuming from ?????

Pay attention next time ewe ninkompoopy, only time current can flow to the downrigger unit is when ewe push the retrive button

So where the hell are ewe finding this so called current ??????????????

Just like I told ewe Wi Yu No Risten

[Fed]

It comes from the Positive Ion Control Voltage, everyone knows that.

[Jumpus GooDarus]

For a bloke hu made his living being an ElectoPatricia ewe dont know much du Yu

Do ewe agree the switch/button on the rigger is insulated ???

If so how does the current pass through that switch & make it's way to the rigger itself if the contactors in the switch/button are not engaged ??????????

[Fed]

It's in the PIC Mate!

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Fed Fed Fed

You're clasping @ straws @ least Bees got to grab sum Pt Jackson Clasps

Pic shows conection back to your sounder data in, data out

If ewe'd been following the thread ewe'd have known we discussed not using the sounder as a plug in source for depth measurement

Answer my Q where is the current comming from ???

Also bear in mind Sir Reel has wun of those goats made from plastic similar to that of a wheely bin

[Fed]

It's in the PIC you goose, PIC = Positive Ion Control.

[Jumpus GooDarus]

So Seys the man with the SHINNY EGG

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Hey Sir Reel

Was @ the club last night & they had CreamOfSumOldGuy from sum place called the downrigger shop giving a demo & talk on downrigging & he was pushing the cannon.

Well I did well to keep my north & south shut but a few of us were up the back having a GooDarus

B4 I go any further I'll point out wun ting, there's many ways of ketching fishys & there's right or wrong way as long as ewe're succeeding.

BUT I just couldn't stop laughing all night @ the comments this guy was making Arty fron fish theorapy kept looking @ us & came over to see what we were laughing @

Personally just my opinion I dont like the cannon just a manual model on show & I did well not to ask about that PIC = Positive Ion Control thingy on their electric models esp when this guy kept narking on how dacron is better than wire cable, last I heard dacron wont transfer electricity so it cant power up & turn the fishys into a feeding fiasco

Then he started ramping on about the leather jackets taking jigs & biting anything they can get their teeth into, thank goodness he's recomending dacron cause leather jackets surely cant bite that stuff off

I was in stich's by the end of the night esp when he said hooking up a live squiddy was velly complicated & it was much easier to bridal up a yakka

[Sir Reel]

Hey Sir Reel

Was @ the club last night & they had CreamOfSumOldGuy from sum place called the downrigger shop giving a demo & talk on downrigging & he was pushing the cannon.

Should of asked him apout the PIC and will it work in a plastic boat.
How much was he asking for the manual downrigger, prob as much as a electric one from the states.

Personally just my opinion I dont like the cannon

I wont hold that against you.
The reason for this model is I can connect it to my fishfinder and make adjustment to the downrigger from the helm.
Will still need to adjust the reel to take up slack line though.

Then he started ramping on about the leather jackets taking jigs & biting anything they can get their teeth into, thank goodness he's recomending dacron cause leather jackets surely cant bite that stuff off

Did this fella have any idea what he was talking bout
Hope those Leather jacket dont eat my bomb lol.

I got mine last week and fitted over the weekend. If this rain ever stops I might get to test it out.
Have you tried trawling lures down deep and what style of lure worked for you?

[Jumpus GooDarus]

How much was he asking for the manual downrigger, prob as much as a electric one from the states

Really wasn't interested besides I was to busy laughing all night was in wun of my hysterical moods my ribs were hurting

I wont hold that against you.
The reason for this model is I can connect it to my fishfinder and make adjustment to the downrigger from the helm.

Like I said tis just my personal view, been using the Scotty2Hottys & prob a wee bit bias towards them

Did this fella have any idea what he was talking bout
Hope those Leather jacket dont eat my bomb lol.

He started going on about fushng back in the 70's & he must not have been that good cause he failed to decribe how good it really was back then or he didn't get out very often to really know wot it was all about back then.

Mr Shinny Head knows wot it was all about I used to fush on his boat back then

Prob with guys like CreamOfSumOldGuy they're here 4 only wun reason
TO SELL THEIR PRODUCTS
That's fine if they keep it fair dinkum but they do alot of bullashitta & peeps hu dont know any better start spreading that same bullashitta & that's wot pee's me off.

He was the guy hu gave Al McLashan that dooberlacky line counter on that show they got the big eye tuna tis same dooberlacky line counter they use on the canon rigger prob the reason they recomend dacron cause wire would chew out the counter.

On the Scotty2Hottys counter works off a gear if i'm corect built into the spool

Your cannon will just fine alot of peeps rave about them, I'm not bagging the unit itself just sum of the bullashitta i've heard

Have you tried trawling lures down deep and what style of lure worked for you?

Just a wee bit back when I was using both Scotty2Hottys I'd run a squid on wun & a BIG plastic on the other think only wun hit on the plastic but really putting a live/fresh squid in front of a girly fish is like offering chocolate to a choco holic cant resist & will take even if not feeding.

Ewe wont get that same success using live yakka's

[Bees Knees]

Have you tried trawling lures down deep and what style of lure worked for you?

Im 1 for 1 on the plastics downrigged. Only did it cause I only caught 1 squid in 2hrs and it got hit so it works. (only a rat though)

Im enjoying this thread for a couple of reasons...
1. Im not an experienced fisho, but try and learn everytime i fish.
2. Downrigging gives me a chance to fish properly... I procure my own bait...explore fishy spots that hold bait... And most times get a hit...

Anyone that can catch bait will have success i believe...

Jumpy, you don't suffer fools lightly mate, but let that bloke sell his spool bud, he has kids to feed!!

Sir Reel, after your first trip, comeback and re-read the thread.. Jumpy has given some great advice IMO... Dont listen to the hype Have a read of this blokes site. http://www.estuaryfishingcharters.com.au/ (remove the link if you have to Jumpus) Between his and Jumpy's advise.. You will smash it

[Jumpus GooDarus]

Im 1 for 1 on the plastics downrigged.

I tink there's a time for lures & a different time for live baits realistically ewe cant or shouldn't do both @ he same time.
1stly ewe really should be aware of the area ewe are fushing if ewe know the fish are there then live bit is definately the go with squid as a preference.
With live bait you're trolling @ very low speed which realistically makes it impossible to pull lures big SP's are the exception, wot ewe look for is large schools of baitfush & ewe work them may lose school after only traveling 20 meters no probs just turn the boat around & find them again wot ewe are trying to do is just hover over them.
If kungs are about they'll come to the baitfishys.

If ewe aim to troll lures 4get about your downrigger it'll be a hinderence more thn an asset with lures like the deeper diving bombers F12's F18's they'll still get down to the depth range or close enough as to where ewe would've had the bomb set difference is ewe can know run a good spread of 3 - 4 lures & they'll allow ewe to increase boat speed which in turn allows ewe to cover alot more area in search of the girlys.

Personaaly i can can only cop a few hrs of girly fushing get bored after that even if they're thick get more of a kick ketching the squiddy's 2b be honest
I can sit behind the wheel all day pulling skirted lures chasing gamefish & dont mind that @ all but i dot war high heels doing that & am alot more comfortable