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Apr 18 2008, 09:55 PM
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the yack man Group: Donator Posts: 2,165 Joined: 13-April 07 From: paradise beach Member No.: 4 |
with the rise and rise of petrol prices in which direction do u see boating going, my own feelings on this are mixed as i feel there will be a return to boats such as the putt putt boats of old built from newer materials of course,were as on the other hand the diesel stern drive may be the way to go
my little poly only costs around me around $15 a day in petrol were as a friend of mine tells me he has spent over a $150 a day running his hains fitted with a 150hp merk and is thinking about down sizing it will be interesting to see what u all think, which way will boating go -------------------- bugger it's sold,got meself a house instead
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Apr 18 2008, 10:42 PM
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the yack man Group: Donator Posts: 2,165 Joined: 13-April 07 From: paradise beach Member No.: 4 |
this is what i meant by a modern putt putt with a 55hp motor it would make about 12nts i would think, but the price is a killer $115.000
diesel would be about 12lts an hour at w.o.t. http://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats/ed.html?de=14116 -------------------- bugger it's sold,got meself a house instead
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Apr 19 2008, 12:55 AM
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His Eminance Group: Administrators Posts: 5,725 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 2 |
No different to cars poly
Are you going to sell your car & ride a push bike because the price of fuel is so high ???? -------------------- Save The Fish, Eat a Pussy |
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Apr 19 2008, 03:10 AM
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the yack man Group: Donator Posts: 2,165 Joined: 13-April 07 From: paradise beach Member No.: 4 |
i don't think we could do with out owe cars were as a boat is a luxury and will most likely be one of the fist things to be cut from the family budget
-------------------- bugger it's sold,got meself a house instead
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Apr 19 2008, 04:19 AM
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*Tooth Fairy* Group: Donator Posts: 203 Joined: 15-February 08 From: The Shire Member No.: 2,553 |
My guess is the people who currently cannot afford to use their boat very often will continue to use their boats less. Mostly large cruisers fit into this category.
Others that have cheaper boats to run will continue to use them. Buggered if I get it but I see more HSV utes as company vehicles now. Guess they must be making so much money that they don't care what price the petrol is. Hopefully someone has to sell their alloy cuddy with a 115 cheap next year because they cannot afford the fuel. Dream on Freddie. -------------------- Don't tell anybody but my name is Fushin Freddie
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Apr 19 2008, 03:17 PM
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the yack man Group: Donator Posts: 2,165 Joined: 13-April 07 From: paradise beach Member No.: 4 |
My guess is the people who currently cannot afford to use their boat very often will continue to use their boats less. Mostly large cruisers fit into this category. why waitOthers that have cheaper boats to run will continue to use them. Buggered if I get it but I see more HSV utes as company vehicles now. Guess they must be making so much money that they don't care what price the petrol is. Hopefully someone has to sell their alloy cuddy with a 115 cheap next year because they cannot afford the fuel. Dream on Freddie. your wish is my command http://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats/ed.html?de=32926 -------------------- bugger it's sold,got meself a house instead
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Apr 19 2008, 05:47 PM
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Kokino Vraka Group: Members Posts: 1,001 Joined: 24-July 07 From: Earth Member No.: 220 |
My guess would be that most people who love boating would try and keep their boat. This could be the only way for someone to be able to relax after working so hard. Then again those that are in a bit of strife would look at getting rid of items and the boat could be one that goes just to reduce or pay off debt.
Generally when you want to borrow money to purchase a house, the lending company would give you a rate of x amount and then they would calculate at 2 percent more. This is would be the limit that they would lend you knowing what you earn and expenses etc. So people would be ok to continue paying back their loans for an extra 2 percent above what they are borrowing. The problem is when we have an increase about the 2 percent buffer allowed by the lending company. The other side of the coin is what about the lending company lending money to people that are calculated above limit and they still lend money to people. It all comes back to people wanting to have or get something that they cannot really afford at the time. So I think we might see more boats on sale. |
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Apr 19 2008, 10:32 PM
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*Telescopic Stick* Group: Members Posts: 234 Joined: 14-April 07 From: THE SHIRE Member No.: 8 |
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Apr 19 2008, 11:29 PM
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*FruitLoop* 53 Group: Donator Posts: 2,043 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Out in the sticks Member No.: 3 |
That boat looks awesome!! I want it..
I could afford a house IF i bought one to live in.... But cant afford rent and a house! and really dont wanna buy here cause i dont plan on staying and the market is ridiculosly overpriced! |
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Apr 19 2008, 11:57 PM
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the yack man Group: Donator Posts: 2,165 Joined: 13-April 07 From: paradise beach Member No.: 4 |
GOOD ONE JUMPY ...I THOUGHT THAT WAS FUNNY ....BLOODY PUSH BIKE ..I GOT A CHEEP HELMET IF YA NEED ONE POLY yep i thought it was funny to Dave, but think about it for a wile the price will double in the next 3 to 5 years so the experts say j. g. i would think your big boat would burn about 30 to 40lts an hour, please correct me if i am wrong. at todays prices working on 30lts an hour that $45 fuel for just 1 hour if it doubles it will be $90, i have no idea just how much fuel u would burn in a full days fishing even if it was as little as 100lts i don't think to many family men could justify the expense. -------------------- bugger it's sold,got meself a house instead
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Apr 20 2008, 12:14 AM
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His Eminance Group: Administrators Posts: 5,725 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 2 |
poly let me tell you something that you may not be aware of.
Back in the 1990 when we were in reccesion the car & boating market was booming WHY ??????????????????????????? Mentality of people they figured buying a home was to expensive so they borrowed $$$'s to buy either a boat or a car & chose to live in rent Even if the price of fuel rech's $5 a litre people will still burn it in their cars & boats QUOTE j. g. i would think your big boat would burn about 30 to 40lts an hour, please correct me if i am wrong. No where near that One of the reasons I went to 4 bangers was because of their fuel efficiency. Last trip out wide prob used about 160 litres with motors reving around 4500 rpm till we got out wide then they sat on around 2600 rpm whilst we trolled. Overall we were on the water with motors running around 10 hrs -------------------- Save The Fish, Eat a Pussy |
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Apr 20 2008, 01:22 AM
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the yack man Group: Donator Posts: 2,165 Joined: 13-April 07 From: paradise beach Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE Even if the price of fuel rech's $5 a litre people will still burn it in their cars & boats yep people will still use it in the car as most people depend on the car to get to work the shops whatever, but the boat will suffer at $5lt by your own figers the day out would have cost $800 even at $3 it would have cost $480, if the price continues to rise i see a shift in the design of boats and the way we power them -------------------- bugger it's sold,got meself a house instead
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Apr 27 2008, 02:51 AM
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BEN 10kg Group: Members Posts: 1,027 Joined: 14-August 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 370 |
i reakon go the tinnys, oh and the polys
yer fuel is getting out of hand my dad was going to get gas on our vz wagon and they said cause its a alloytec motor its 4 grand ... dunno if its worth it ... might be in the end it save heeps .... i reakon i buy a 40hp four stroke when i get older ( not as old as jumpus ) and some small car ( or big ) |
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Apr 27 2008, 03:45 AM
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*Back Better* Group: Donator Posts: 394 Joined: 29-February 08 From: Sylvania NSW Member No.: 2,560 |
i reakon go the tinnys, oh and the polys yer fuel is getting out of hand my dad was going to get gas on our vz wagon and they said cause its a alloytec motor its 4 grand ... dunno if its worth it ... might be in the end it save heeps .... i reakon i buy a 40hp four stroke when i get older ( not as old as jumpus ) and some small car ( or big ) I believe there is some sort of government cash back for installing LPG in your car so your out of pocket expense is not as much. Gas conversions of your engine are in my opinion a compromise in all departments and I dont like them. Lose space (big ugly tank) lose power (LPG is just not as powerful as fuel) more change of problems with engine (simply by adding complexity) When you get older we have run out of oil and you'll be driving your push bike around with a tinnie in tow Jack -------------------- |
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Apr 27 2008, 05:37 AM
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BEN 10kg Group: Members Posts: 1,027 Joined: 14-August 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 370 |
that be mad jack
but with the gas change over think of it full tank of gas ( 60 litre tank ) around 35 bucks full tank of fuel ( 60 litre tank ) around 80 bucks is it worth having a big ugly tank in the back when your saving 45 bucks a trip to the fuel station ... who said they lose power .. cars like mine and your jack will not lose ( yours is a vz right, all the same with commodores) power, thats not true trust me plus cars have that much power with you lose abit it will not matter, plus the money back from the govement is only 2 grand so it still going to cost us 2 and a half grand too just my option |
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Apr 27 2008, 11:50 AM
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Shark Group: Members Posts: 322 Joined: 18-August 07 From: Camden SOuth Member No.: 393 |
Wether running on gas only or dual fuel daniel there is some power loss, big thing is 30% approx fuel economy drop compared to unleaded. Looked into it for my VR-would end up costing me $400 after cash back thing!
This post has been edited by storms72: Apr 27 2008, 11:51 AM -------------------- AAAAHhhhhhhh, I just wanna fish!!!!
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Apr 27 2008, 01:49 PM
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*The Dog Master* Group: Members Posts: 141 Joined: 16-April 07 From: South Coast Member No.: 17 |
No different to cars poly Are you going to sell your car & ride a push bike because the price of fuel is so high ???? I can't help but feel that some of the replies in this thread are a bit narky aren't we all just having our say on the matter ?? It is OK for the guys who have jobs to say these things but I only get $300 a week and have learned what it means to go with out. I'd love to take my wife out for tea once in a while but as Pol mentioned some of us have to watch our budget. You might be thinking come off it thats B/S I can assure you I don't B/S and I am not complaining I am just agreeing with Pol the fuel thing will affect a lot of lower income people. I love my life down here but I would like a few little niceities but I am learning to be happy with what I got. As far as a bike goes some people would get a great deal of benefit from getting off their butts and doing some exercise great for the cardio. Riding a bike lets me know I am alive. I love my bike before I did my knee in I was riding between 80 -90 klms a day and after I get it fixed up even with two steel knees I will be back to 40-5klms a day with a back pack on I can get into town shop a wee bit chew the fat at McCallums Tackle shop and still have plenty in my tank to trundle home to Greenwell Point This would give me approx. a 40 klm return trip I just love the thought. Even in the wet riding through the wet cow Poooooooo does something for me No it doesn't grow hair For some of us we will have to get rid of a car or boat maybe, . For me I get $300 a week and it is tough but we gotta do what we gotta do. I still have a kayak to fish out of just makes it a bit slower and a wee bit wetter but I will still be fishing That's just my thoughts This post has been edited by Arnie Dog: Apr 27 2008, 02:16 PM -------------------- The George Street Shuffle |
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Apr 27 2008, 02:03 PM
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Marlin Group: Moderator Posts: 1,388 Joined: 9-November 07 From: lidcombe Member No.: 1,004 |
Well the way I look at it, is it's a gradual thing, although it's rapidly increasing speed the last few years.
People will still do their boating, although they will think more of pulling up anchor and moving to a new spot a little more, and basically go fewer times then they do now. Who knows down the track they will probably have 4 strokes running on gas and ethonol mixture. I am a firm believer that this government of ours will steadily increase the price of gas in a much greater volume then petrol in the next few years so in the end it will be on a par ( economy wise ) with petrol. Gas no doubt gives less grunt, and you don't get quiet the same milage per litre, add everything up, and unless you do heaps of k's every year it's just not worth the room and expense. Just my thoughts. -------------------- Frank
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Apr 27 2008, 02:35 PM
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*The Manilla Gorilla* Group: Moderator Posts: 865 Joined: 14-April 07 From: Manilla NSW Member No.: 13 |
anyone thought of converting their tinnie to a Paddle wheel boat, you could get around Cheap and excercise at the same time.
-------------------- I WANNA GO: FISHIN WITH SUMO.
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Apr 27 2008, 05:25 PM
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His Eminance Group: Administrators Posts: 5,725 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 2 |
I can't help but feel that some of the replies in this thread are a bit narky aren't we all just having our say on the matter ?? It is OK for the guys who have jobs to say these things but I only get $300 a week and have learned what it means to go with out. I'd love to take my wife out for tea once in a while but as Pol mentioned some of us have to watch our budget. You might be thinking come off it thats B/S I can assure you I don't B/S and I am not complaining I am just agreeing with Pol the fuel thing will affect a lot of lower income people. I love my life down here but I would like a few little niceities but I am learning to be happy with what I got. As far as a bike goes some people would get a great deal of benefit from getting off their butts and doing some exercise great for the cardio. Riding a bike lets me know I am alive. I love my bike before I did my knee in I was riding between 80 -90 klms a day and after I get it fixed up even with two steel knees I will be back to 40-5klms a day with a back pack on I can get into town shop a wee bit chew the fat at McCallums Tackle shop and still have plenty in my tank to trundle home to Greenwell Point This would give me approx. a 40 klm return trip I just love the thought. Even in the wet riding through the wet cow Poooooooo does something for me No it doesn't grow hair For some of us we will have to get rid of a car or boat maybe, . For me I get $300 a week and it is tough but we gotta do what we gotta do. I still have a kayak to fish out of just makes it a bit slower and a wee bit wetter but I will still be fishing That's just my thoughts Wasn't being Narky @ all & my say was as good as any I dont have a job either, but when I did I worked by butt off in a way most here would have no idea about I didn't get on the booze , didn't spend my $$'s on drugs never owned a credit card & allways lived within my means. When most of you's were out fishing or taking sickies from work I was going to work even when I was legitly sick 15 years of that without a day off. Everyone gets given oppertunities in life & some of us made the most of them I can garauntee all nobody fed me with a silver spoon. You're talking about trivial sacrifices that you're making today ?? Tell you what, if you can give me back the 15 odd years I didn't have a life then I'll gladly give you all the $$'s that I own -------------------- Save The Fish, Eat a Pussy |
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