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Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Mar 20 2008, 02:11 PM

We have got a few people on here that have or maybe still do write articles for magazines..

Im not sure of copyrights or any of that Jazz, but how about a section on here where we could put those articles up (if the writers dont mind) So we could all have a read and an archives section..

I know KKW threw a few of his hunting ones up a while ago and they were a great read..

KKW? Jumps? Arnie? What do you think?

Posted by: It'l Do Mar 20 2008, 08:35 PM

I agree Rummy. I joined after reading some of the antics some members get up to. Strange how some of the members did not find it as funny and don't seem to post that oftem but I bet they are LURKERS.

Another reason people join is because of excellent pinned articles which make them an expert after they reads them. So I reckon it is a great idea.

BTW, I'm now an expert in the Seatow radio calls thanks to Steve.P

Posted by: oz man Mar 20 2008, 09:56 PM

I have no problems with that just tell me what you want it called.

Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Mar 20 2008, 10:01 PM

I spose Articles??

It reallt depends on the guys if they are willing or allowed to share them?

Posted by: CATCH22 Mar 20 2008, 10:44 PM

mago reports an idea

Posted by: kkw Mar 20 2008, 10:52 PM

Thing is the space it takes up. I sent a crocodile article I wrote, to Poly. It is 7mb. You can reduce that file size substantially by converting to .pdf but it still needs to be stored on the servers. I have quite a lot of magazine articles I wrote, on another website not related to fishing or hunting in any way. Copyright is the property of the author, but when it is released to a magazine for publication, it reverts to their property. A grey area, as you can still 'display' it on, say a website, so long as it is not for commercial gain. That's my understanding in any case. I don't put an article on a website until the magazine has been published and a few new issues have been released. Not sure about the legalities of doing so, but it is a grey area in my understanding, as I said.

Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Mar 20 2008, 11:40 PM

Prob a good idea but as kk said the legalities may be a prob

ps] kk it's the file type you use that makes the files so big

Very easilly converted down to a teeny weeny wittle file which would take up no more bandwidth than this reply

Posted by: kkw Mar 20 2008, 11:43 PM

I will send you an article in its word format, and as a .pdf, and you send it back to me as a smaller file than the .pdf one. Maintain the formatting and pics etc, so that it still resembles the original article.

Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Mar 20 2008, 11:55 PM

Very easily done

All it takes is a snapshot & it can be posted as a jpeg no more than 60 odd kb

Posted by: It'l Do Mar 20 2008, 11:58 PM

My guess is the file size is large due to high resolution photos. Only need 72dpi for a computer screen.

Jumpy,
Don't forget the articles that Daniel (Flattie Hunter) recerntly did. They need to formatted/reorganised. A lot of work and I am sure he will do more once he see how good they can look. Glad to help but need to know how you want them reformatted/outlayed.

Posted by: MartinF Mar 21 2008, 04:36 AM

60kb jpeg is gonna take a huge quality loss jumps. As a photographer I work with file formats quite a bit and it's always a compromise between size and quality.

But you can compress a pdf down quite considerably. Unless it's like a 10 page full-colour spread, it shouldn't be anywhere near 7mb.

legality is always an issue too, depends under which terms you supplied the article I guess. What's pretty common tho is that you're allowed to publish it on your own website, usually with something added like 'no commercial gain' etc like you mention. From what I've seen from some of my friends who publish is that you can usually stretch that 'own website' to include stuff like a forum. Like you say, grey area and likely the worst that might ever happen is that someone objects and asks you to remove it.

Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Mar 21 2008, 04:42 AM

Martin I wont get any quality loss @ all

The snapshot prog I use is very good &will only lose quality if original pic is poor quality & I try to enlarge it

Just a preview of kk's article

MOUNTAIN TAHR CONQUESTS.

BY Kay Kay Winks

Posted by: MartinF Mar 21 2008, 04:55 AM

mate no offense.. I'm sure you're quite handy with your computer there but I do this for a living.

It's not a matter of how good a quality product you use, it's a simply mathematical truth that jpeg is a compression format that sacrifices quality for the sake of size. It basically deletes detail info so you get a smaller size image. It does this in a clever way so you don't notice it as much but especially with things like text, the quality loss is very noticeable very quickly because it becomes blurry, loses sharpness, etc.

Even a 1 page A4 article in full-colour reduced down to 60k would be almost impossible to read, unless it was written for a children's book and has like 10 words on it (granted, that wouldn't surprise me either -kidding kkw- )

This is the whole reason they invented a standard like pdf, it lends itself much better to compressing text while keeping it legible. A whole book, without pictures, converted to pdf is usually only around 2-3Mb maximum and sometimes a lot less.

Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Mar 21 2008, 05:07 AM

I didn't say anything about taking a pic of the text Martin

No need to I have the whole article in a hex editor & the whole file is only 16 kb

A copy & paste job & it's in a thread

It's the pics kk was refering to that took up the 1.2 mb upload & you wouldn't know the diference after I've snap shot them.

Different story if I had a crappy screen with poor resolution but my pc's have all the good gear in them

Posted by: MartinF Mar 21 2008, 05:14 AM

yes you did ;)


Anyway if you do it the way you're saying it would obviously work but would be a lot of work to keep the original formatting I would think.. Might be easier to try and go the compressed pdf route if we're talking about a lot of articles, otherwise you're going to get even less fishing done mate! haha

anyway you can figure it out, I'll just stick to reading the damn things

Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Mar 21 2008, 02:48 PM

Well, I dunno. But if it can be done, I think that it would make a good section on the site, Perhaps in a menu like the links one..

Speaking of which, OZ, A couple of the links Could do with a space between them? and possably a small note to explain what they are.

Posted by: It'l Do Mar 21 2008, 07:26 PM

I would rather see the article as a thread on the forum not as a pdf. This way as Jumpy says he can reduce the photos for veiwing on a screen rather than printing. I may be out of date but you only need 72dpi for a screen and when in photoshop 72dpi photos are not very large.

Anyway Jumpy hurry up I want to read Kay Kay Winks mountain story. Does it start with Once upon a time ?

Posted by: kkw Mar 21 2008, 08:13 PM

They ALL start with 'Once upon a time' or 'The night was moist'.

Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Mar 21 2008, 08:20 PM

The night was moist!!!!!!


Any of my storys that start like that are all XXX and the adult section is gone!

Posted by: kkw Mar 21 2008, 08:24 PM

That was a line from 'Throw Momma from the Train' starring JG's alter ego, Danny DeVito.

Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Mar 21 2008, 08:57 PM

Yes Rumpus !

And kkw played the Role of Momma

Danny tried to get her knocked off not knocked up