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Fishing oz style _ Boating Talk _ Some Help Looking For Cartopper
Posted by: MartinF Apr 15 2008, 06:09 PM
Hi guys,
For my trip round Oz I'm looking for a tinny to use as a cartopper.
Ideally it would be no bigger than 3.5 meters (about 12ft) so I can still easily load it by myself without having to invest in an expensive loading system.
For outboard I'm looking at a 15 or 18hp 2 stroke. If it's got a smaller engine but if the boat and price are alright it's fine too, I can always trade it in for a bigger one somewhere if I need to.
For safety I guess something with a v-hull and a bit higher sides would be nice but it has to still be able to go on top of a car. Other than that I'm not too fussed about what make it is. I think a lot of people use the Quintrex Dart for this purpose.
Price range no more than $2500. It would probably come with a trailer, since almost all do, but I don't need that, would have to get rid of it somehow I guess.
Any help is much appreciated. I've been looking at ebay and tradingpost and so far only really seen 2 that are somewhat near Sydney. Don't mind driving for a bit but I guess around 100-150k's is about the max distance.
Thanks guys.
Also on a side note, I'm still looking for a car although I've seen some likely ones. 60-series Landcruiser preferred or a GQ Patrol would be good as well. Dual fuel would be awesome cause I'm a tight arsed backpacker type but diesel would be the best from a maintenance perspective.. still struggling with that choice a bit tbh and not too many dual fuel ones around anyway. So if you know someone who's selling one with a roo bar that is in decent shape and no more than say $6000, please let me know as well.
You can send me a PM for my phonenumber as well
Posted by: nimrod Apr 15 2008, 07:08 PM
Martin. Tell you what I will do for you, and it is only an offer
so don't feel like you are under any sort of obligation.
I have a 12' alloy flat bottom square nose punt here that I don't use any more.
It is only suitable for lakes and rivers, as it is pretty shallow.
If you don't get anything that suits you, I will lend you this boat to take on your travels
and you can just drop it back to me when you are going home.
I don't have a motor for it at the moment but it only needs between a 6 hp and a 9.9 hp.
With a 6 it pokes along quiet nicely with a 9.9 you really need to hang on tight.
So what this means is it won't cost you a lot of money to get on the water.
The best roof rack for he boat would be a old telecom ladder rack and cut the centre
ribs out, they have rollers at the end and skids that the sides of boat
can slide on for easy getting down and putting up.
This punt is a roughy so it wouldn't matter if you dropped it on stones etc etc etc
and can be manouvered one up for launching etc.
As for the other stuff I will PM you shortly, have to do a few things at the moment.
Have a think about it mate and the punt is here IF you want it.
Posted by: boris Apr 15 2008, 07:46 PM
Hey Frank mate... You're good man... 
Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Apr 15 2008, 09:50 PM
Very kind offer Frank & prob a good idea as well to have a punt that way Bunyip Man wont be tempted to venture outside to places he shouldn't be thinking off
Posted by: nimrod Apr 15 2008, 11:16 PM
It's not pretty to look at 
But is is a means of floating on top of the water and driving across it.
Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Apr 16 2008, 12:18 AM
Martin, you should find plenty of patrols or 60 series crusiers for that price..
Check out Just 4x4 magazine and the trading post..
Id go with diesel as travelling you are less likly to have problems..
If you need to get the car checked out I can put on to a 4x4 shop that will look after you.
Posted by: MartinF Apr 16 2008, 12:25 AM
Frank, that's very nice of you! Thanks, I will defo think about it. When you say rivers though.. would that only be pretty sheltered ones? Cause I wouldn't be taking it out on the ocean anyway of course but some of the rivers here in Oz are plenty big enough with quite a bit of wave action. Wouldn't want to go down of course 
Rump. There's actually not as many around as I had hoped at the moment. Problem is also that I'm a little limited as to where I can look as I obviously don't have transportation at the moment. I'd like to get a diesel but if I look at the simple economy of it, it's hard to justify. The fuel is just so much more expensive..
I looked at a nice '91 GQ yesterday which I think I can get for around $5500 but it's petrol.. I'm really partial to the landcruisers myself but so is everyone else which means they sell very quickly and at higher prices as well.
If you know of a good one that you think might be worth it, I have no problem with traveling out from Sydney, it's just that it gets a bit expensive to go all around to look at cars that turn out not to be so great after all.
Posted by: nimrod Apr 16 2008, 01:15 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TROOP-CARRIER_W0QQitemZ110241108708QQihZ001QQcategoryZ35227QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Martin if you see something that is a bit away that you need to travel to.
Give me a buz and pay for petrol and I could drive you to have a look at it.
Posted by: nimrod Apr 16 2008, 01:39 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Toyota-Landcruiser-tabletop_W0QQitemZ280216766051QQihZ018QQcategoryZ47364QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Perhaps you might want to consider a ute.
Don't think the kid changing the wheel comes with the package.
Posted by: SUMOFISHIN Apr 16 2008, 01:49 AM
Hi Martin,
a Mate of mine called in today and left me his 4WD to sell Its a 95 4ltr Fuel injected Jeep Cherokee Sport, with everything that opens and shuts, includes Big Alloy Bull Bar & Reece Tow Bar, elec windows, central locking Keyless entry, He had it inspected Today and Registered for 12 Months today, it ran out of rego last Wednesday so all but 1 week rego.
He has asked me to sell it for $5900 ONO and said he will take $5200 thats not a bad price considering the rego was $650 today. Send me a PM if you're interested.
Forgot to mention it has genuine roof racks, and he tells me it does about 12 litres per 100 klms 8 ks per litre
Posted by: nimrod Apr 16 2008, 02:18 AM
a Mate of mine called in today and left me his 4WD to sell Its a 95 4ltr Fuel injected Jeep Cherokee Sport, with everything that opens and shuts, includes Big Alloy Bull Bar & Reece Tow Bar, elec windows, central locking Keyless entry, He had it inspected Today and Registered for 12 Months today, it ran out of rego last Wednesday so all but 1 week rego.
He has asked me to sell it for $5900 ONO and said he will take $5200 thats not a bad price considering the rego was $650 today. Send me a PM if you're interested.
Forgot to mention it has genuine roof racks, and he tells me it does about 12 litres per 100 klms 8 ks per litre
Martin. that sounds like a really good deal that Sumo has, and I could run you up there to have a look at it whenever you like, as I say just pay for fuel.
Posted by: SUMOFISHIN Apr 16 2008, 02:25 AM
Frank, you know you and Martin are welcome at my place anytime ,and I have a 40ft motorhome sitting in the yard, if Martin want's the vehicle I can deliver it, as I was going to fly down or catch a Train next week to pick up another car for my Daughter and it would be easier to drive a vehicle I didn't have to bring back. but if he want's to have a look by all means come up for a run and stay a couple of days.
Bye the way this jeep is immaculate it's done 220,000klms it'd be just run in.
Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Apr 16 2008, 02:51 AM
Dont look down on me guys.. Please....
But Martin? if you are planning on any travel to remote areas or on outback / corrogated roads.. You re better sticknig with you crusier or patrol, and i will give a few reasons.
1. PARTS! Ovbviosly, crusiers and patrols rule the bush and are much easier to get fixed if somthing goes wrong!
2. Strengh! Crusiers and patrols both use solid axle suspension and have a seperate body / chassis, Much stronger.
Sorry.. Sumo... Not trying to talk him out of it, But, if he plans on remote travel the its wise to stick with what works..
Martin, Dont rule out the very capable toyota 4runners either if its a wagon you are after, but stay away from the 2.4l Surfs. The 3l Surfs are ok.
Posted by: MartinF Apr 16 2008, 03:44 AM
Actually I agree with Rum on this one.. thanks for the offer though Sumo.
I did look at some mitsu pajero's. Had a look at a really nice Discovery today. Thing is, you get a lot more bang for your buck because they are not so popular here in Oz but there's probably a good reason for that.. even just the availability of the parts like Rum says. It's a tough decision cause you get a '94/'96 discovery for the same price as a late 80's cruiser.
Frank, regarding the link you put up, I would like to get a vehicle with a rear seat so I can bring some people along with me to share the fuel cost, and just for company, so that sort of rules out the utes and troopies.
Would be great if you can drive me out somewhere though. I'll have another good look around tomorrow morning (when I get free internet again) and will get back to you on that, thanks.
So just to summarize.. preferably a cruiser or patrol, with backseat, fuel not as important although dual fuel would be great.. need good roo bars and things like dual battery system, winch and spots are a bonus
Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Apr 16 2008, 03:59 AM
Actually Marin, you raise a good point.. There is not alot wrong with the old discovery's either.. I used to work on them alot and although im not a massive fan cause of little niggly things, its probably not a bad option.
The 300tdi would be the pick..
Im hoping most of you skip over that cause im almost embaressed to say it!!!
Posted by: nimrod Apr 16 2008, 04:08 AM
This one might be worth a look.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1991-Nissan-Patrol-ST-4X4-Grey-5-Speed-M-
OK will have to try again
On gas, don't know how much rego it has, and I sure if you waved $6000 under his nose he would jump at it.
Posted by: salty fil Apr 16 2008, 04:09 AM
But Martin? if you are planning on any travel to remote areas or on outback / corrogated roads.. You re better sticknig with you crusier or patrol, and i will give a few reasons.
1. PARTS! Ovbviosly, crusiers and patrols rule the bush and are much easier to get fixed if somthing goes wrong!
2. Strengh! Crusiers and patrols both use solid axle suspension and have a seperate body / chassis, Much stronger.
Sorry.. Sumo... Not trying to talk him out of it, But, if he plans on remote travel the its wise to stick with what works..
Martin, Dont rule out the very capable toyota 4runners either if its a wagon you are after, but stay away from the 2.4l Surfs. The 3l Surfs are ok.
I also have to totally agreee there. I was going to write the same thing but went out to dinner.
Last year i travelled all the way to the top of OZ and back in 5 weeks. 11 000 km. I done it in a Toyota Hilux and really put her through hell. She did not falter one bit, actually i felt she was begging for more.
Martin, in all those remote places i was at the most common 4wd i saw was Toyota. If i was to ever do a big round the country trip i would not do it in anything but a Toyota.
Everyone i have met along my travels who has one can only talk good things about them. And up North QLD they REALLY give their cars hell.
Posted by: salty fil Apr 16 2008, 04:14 AM
Also, the Toyota 4 runner is a terrific car, its just like the Hilux. But i was always told to stay away from the Toyota Surf cause their an import or something like that and apparantly they are complete shi7boxes. 2 of my mates had them and they had major problems with them. I cant exactly remember the politics of what makes them different but i do remember telling myself i will stay away from them. Rum can maybe correct me on this.
Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Apr 16 2008, 04:35 AM
No worries mate, there have been 2 versions of the surf brought into the country, most popular was the 2.4l version which was from the start a dog of a motor and had al sorts of problems. There are also 3l versions going around which in early days were also hard to find parts for untill toyota upgraded our aussie hilux's to the same motor as the older model 3l surfs, therefore all the parts became available, so basically that are a gen 2 4 runner with the gen 3 hilux motor in them. The auto box's in these (hilux/4runners) are an extremly tough box and like yuo say.
They are a great car, that can handle alot of punishment and get you most places, Only limited by the inderpendant front suspension. As long as you dont bounce on rocks with heaps of wheelspin to much you will have no problems. My old one had a 2" lift (max you can go with IFS without massive mod's) and only being the 2.8d had a turbo fitted and ran 32" muddies and a rear locker! People wouldnt beileive the roads i took it without seeing it for themselves.
Posted by: nimrod Apr 16 2008, 04:37 AM
Hey maybe you should buy my Range Rover 88 model only done 90000 has bull bar tow bar roof bars back seat twin batterys has air compressor with resovoir for pumping up tyres after driving on beach could throw some driving lights on it and rod holders ( although they are illegal ) has under body bump bars for tight places. Don't have a winch but could throw a hand winch in.
Give me $5200 and I will buy Sumos Jeep.
Posted by: Krust Apr 16 2008, 04:46 AM
Not one that knows much about cars... but this seemed like a nice buy. I found this while searching for the newer 4Runners
Nice price, low km's.
http://www.autotrader.com.au/iteminfo/adnumber_W1097921908984_loc_locRZSQregtAVSCdistRZSQAVSCstateRZSQ2AVSCregRZSQ_maxp_7000_off_6_sect_Automotive_sort_otRZSQ1BJDZfdRZSQSearchDisplayPriorityIndAVSCotRZSQ1BJDZfdRZSQFirstPublished_sqt_0_srchby_mmbsRZSQMakeAVSCsrchbyRZSQmkmdlAVSCmkdlsRZSQToyotaMRFX4+Runner_stpg_1_subs_Used+Cars_
Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Apr 16 2008, 04:54 AM
Frank?
has it got standard twin carbies or has it been modded? The SU's can be a bit fiddly, but as long as ya stay off the loud pedal they aint to bad on fuel..
Still though. Crusier, 4runner and Patrols would be my first choice...
4 Runner is actually a good option cause they are cheap on fuel and smaller and a bit more comfortable!
Posted by: nimrod Apr 16 2008, 04:59 AM
has it got standard twin carbies or has it been modded? The SU's can be a bit fiddly, but as long as ya stay off the loud pedal they aint to bad on fuel..
Still though. Crusier, 4runner and Patrols would be my first choice...
4 Runner is actually a good option cause they are cheap on fuel and smaller and a bit more comfortable!
Fuel injected 4 ltr v8 does about 10 ltrs per 100 k's on the open road, but drinks a bit if I put my foot down in town.
Posted by: nimrod Apr 16 2008, 05:00 AM
Nice price, low km's.
http://www.autotrader.com.au/iteminfo/adnumber_W1097921908984_loc_locRZSQregtAVSCdistRZSQAVSCstateRZSQ2AVSCregRZSQ_maxp_7000_off_6_sect_Automotive_sort_otRZSQ1BJDZfdRZSQSearchDisplayPriorityIndAVSCotRZSQ1BJDZfdRZSQFirstPublished_sqt_0_srchby_mmbsRZSQMakeAVSCsrchbyRZSQmkmdlAVSCmkdlsRZSQToyotaMRFX4+Runner_stpg_1_subs_Used+Cars_
Yes that is a nice WHITE 4runner
.
Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Apr 16 2008, 05:08 AM
Slightly upgraded hey frank... That would not be a bad veichle. Did you say auto or manual? 4 door or 2 door?
These motors get along.. Keep the stepper motor clean and tuned along with the air flow sensor and theres no much to em... And you dont have to worry about the oil leaks cause they come from factory!!
Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Apr 16 2008, 05:09 AM
A bit late but Yep Yep the Jeep Cherokee's suck
I know this cause I had one B4 trading it in on the Navara, Jeeps are pretty small inside & use a sh*tload of fuel pretty gutless as well powerwise considering they're a 4 litre 6 cylinder motor.
I initially told bunyip man a Hi-lux or similar would be a better option but he wont listen to me 
Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Apr 16 2008, 05:11 AM
I am also starting to lean towards the 4 runner option.. They also have the most room with the back seats folded down so you can get a swag and sleep in the back, especially cosy if you pick up a nice female backpacker!
Posted by: It'l Do Apr 16 2008, 05:32 AM
A 3L diesel would be cheap to run.
Could he get a gen 3 (1989-1996??) for his budget?
Martin I assume you know that although diesel is dearer to purchase you drive a lot further per litre if you don't fang the crap out of it.
Posted by: SUMOFISHIN Apr 16 2008, 02:51 PM
First of all Chad I know that Cruisers are tuff trucks I have owned them and I must say that they are tuff but it is very rare to find one that has Never blown a diff or gearbox Gearbox replacements are between $3500 and $5000,
Jumpy you are right that Jeeps feel smaller inside , they do not have a high roof line But I have been to the cape and back in one and it was a very impressing vehicle and reasonably fuel effecient, as far as power you mention Hi Luxes and my reference to them is that they wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding.
I have also owned Jackaroos which I wouldn't go tripping in, and Probably one of the Best & most reliable vehicles I owned was an MQ Nissan wagon 3.3SD which was bullet proof.
I hope that Martin will find a Reliable vehicle to Travel OZ but it won't be a Hilux under any circumstances.
Posted by: salty fil Apr 16 2008, 03:22 PM
I hope that Martin will find a Reliable vehicle to Travel OZ but it won't be a Hilux under any circumstances.
Sumo it is true that Hilux's are renowned for having no guts. If you want power apparantly the Mitsubishi Triton wins that department according to a few of the guys i talk with on construction, (My knowledge of 4wd's is mainly with utes cause thats what interests me).
In November i towed my new boat of 850 kg (approx including trailer) back from Labrador in QLD on my 2.4L dual cab Hilux. A trip of normally 11 hours took me 12 to complete. The only time she really struggled was going up the hill at the Hawkesbury bridge. I had semis overtaking me there. But apart from the extra fuel, i had no problem.
As for unreliable to travel OZ, i have to dissagree my friend. I know many who have done it, and done it comfortably. I myself have tortured my vehicle so much that i should be put in jail if the world was run by cars. I have been saying i want to sell it and upgrade for over a year now, but i just cant do it cause the Hilux has been so good to me. But i have been looking, and im going to get ANOTHER Hilux but with a bigger engine so it doesnt strain with the boat on the back.
If i were to travel round OZ in a hilux a canopy is a must so you can store your stuff. Also i believe you need a dual cab. I would never own a single cab.
I go away a hell of a lot during the year, my work is flexible and the good thing is that the missus likes going camping and going off road so thats all we ever do.
If you have had a bad experience with a Hilux then i would understand your point, but i have yet to bump into anyone who had one and regards them as unreliable.
As the ad says...............................
UNBREAKABLE!!!
Posted by: jack Apr 16 2008, 03:33 PM
I once saw an episode of top gear in which they were testing the reliability of, I am pretty sure, the HILUX.
They tried everything, even submerging it in seawater, which went wrong and it was flushed away with the tide so was submerged for a couple of hours.
They were not allowed to replace parts , only clean, drain and replace fluids.
It kept on going.
Martin how about a course in 4x4 to get you out of hairy situations as well? Maybe one of the members can show him a thing or two
Jack
Posted by: nimrod Apr 16 2008, 03:42 PM
As for a boat, you would find it hard to do better then this one. sell the trailer.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ALLOY-TINNY-10-FT-ON-TRAILER-6HP-
god damn it. don't know why it is doing that.
Posted by: SUMOFISHIN Apr 16 2008, 03:52 PM
Hi Phil,
With no disregard to the performance of your Hilux, Up here in the bush we live amongst the Mountain Ranges of some very rough terrain, most people in these areas have tried just about every 4WD known,
I myself have had many, but at present most people in this region are either using Cruisers or believe it or not Dual Cab Rodeos,
Although I did have a turbo diesel Jackaroo and a V6 HSV Jackaroo whick are built on the same Chassis of my Rodeo they were never in the class of the Rodeo for Off road OR Highway use and I would never buy another,
However There is members on this site that will attest to the capabilities of my Rodeo and have done many thousands of Kilometers with me in all terrains.
(after saying that) all manufacturers have made LEMONS regardless and all owners have preferences, all I say to Martin is that the condition of the vehicle is what must be considered.
I think that we have HI JACKED Martins thread and should have started one on BUYING 4WD's
Posted by: jack Apr 16 2008, 03:57 PM
As this information is relevant for him I am sure he won't mind
My inlaw has a rodeo and even though it rarely leaves the beaten track, it does a lot of km a year and it never faults him.
Jack
Posted by: MartinF Apr 16 2008, 04:24 PM
jesus you guys are supposed to make it EASIER for me.. not HARDER!! 
Jumps, I did listen to you but like I said, the cruisers/patrols are bigger and you can put a mattress in the back, and besides that, didn't see too many good hiluxs around either.
Frank, your last two ebay links aren't working here mate, sorry.. as for the car, are you positive you can get 10 liters per 100ks out of that engine? That's pretty good. The discovery I looked at yesterday also had a V8 and didn't get anything near that on petrol, although it's quite good on gas.
Krust, $7000 for a car with no gear with it is out of my budget a bit, since I'll need to get all the camping gear and tools and what not. Like I said, I really like the 60 series cruiser, also cause it's such a chunky car but the GQ I looked at wasn't too bad with UHF on it, good bull bar with spots, already has a rhino roof system so all I need to get is one more rhino roof bar and I can sell the rhino basket which should be worth quite a bit. It did have a bit of dmg to the paint but nothing too serious.. only bad thing is it's petrol with no lpg. That's why I wanted to look around a bit more. Will dive back into it in a minute. This is the car btw http://www.gumtree.com.au/sydney/25/22722125.html
this one was put on today: might have a look at it but it has the same prob as the other one and the price is almost $1000 dearer
http://www.gumtree.com.au/sydney/49/22812749.html
Just saw this.. the guy is only asking $4500 for it.. what do you reckon would be wrong with it? Since it's a '96 80-series diesel with pretty much everything on it you could want
http://www.gumtree.com.au/sydney/58/22845058.html
-- just saw that it's on muddies which wouldn't be ideal for long trips I guess.. but still at that price I could get a set of cooper ATRs and sell off the muddies..
Posted by: nimrod Apr 16 2008, 05:01 PM
There is a lot of talk about a vehicle being capable of handling the rough terraine
My question to Martin is " Are you going to be going OFF road into rough terraine " ????
You can travel around Australia these days in a Mini minor as everywhere has bitumen roads.
That is unless you get into the remote areas that will take extra time and a lot more money.
My guess is Martin won't be doing any really rough OFF road adventures in his travels, and therefor
the vehicle he buys will not have to be the toughest of tough you beaut beasts that a
lot of people appear to consider nessesssary to travel Australia.
Most 4x4's never get onto a dirt road, and that is because there is no need for them to do so.
Yeah OK there are plenty of places where the roads are dirt, but you could still travel
them with a conventional vehicle, and a run of the mill 4x4 of any brand would be suitable.
Spare parts could be a slight problem for some vehicles, but you could bet if something goes
wrong the local mechanic would have to have the parts sent from somewhere, even with your Toyotas.
Prevention is better then cure, and if the vehicle is properly serviced and everything checked
properly before he ventures off, then unless he abuses the vehicle or has an accident, then
there should be no need for any complicated parts to be needed.
I personally would have no hesitation heading for a around Australia journey in a well maintained
Jeep.
Posted by: salty fil Apr 16 2008, 05:06 PM
With no disregard to the performance of your Hilux, Up here in the bush we live amongst the Mountain Ranges of some very rough terrain, most people in these areas have tried just about every 4WD known,
I myself have had many, but at present most people in this region are either using Cruisers or believe it or not Dual Cab Rodeos,
Although I did have a turbo diesel Jackaroo and a V6 HSV Jackaroo whick are built on the same Chassis of my Rodeo they were never in the class of the Rodeo for Off road OR Highway use and I would never buy another,
However There is members on this site that will attest to the capabilities of my Rodeo and have done many thousands of Kilometers with me in all terrains.
(after saying that) all manufacturers have made LEMONS regardless and all owners have preferences, all I say to Martin is that the condition of the vehicle is what must be considered.
I think that we have HI JACKED Martins thread and should have started one on BUYING 4WD's
You make some good points SUMO. Also being older than me (and i believe maybe wiser) i will not counter what you say about other vehicles. I also cant say much about many other makes cause im no pro on them. BUT my Hilux has been good to me and i wont buy anything else until they prove me wrong. Im actually getting abit nervous to buy a new one now cause Murpheys Law says that im going to buy one that turns out to be a complete lemon!
I dont think we have hijacked Martins thread, maybe confused the guy, but we are all posting some good info here for him and others. I myself have learnt a thing or two.
Posted by: MartinF Apr 16 2008, 05:09 PM
Well I guess it depends on your definition of tough terrain but I do intend to do Cape York, Kimberley, some of the desert area out in WA as well as the offroad tracks in Taz, so yeah, I reckon it would have to be a pretty capable vehicle. Having said that, there's usually an easy and a hard way to do most remote areas, like say Cape York. But I do intend to be using the 4wd capabilities a fair bit once I get to north QLD and beyond.
Posted by: salty fil Apr 16 2008, 05:30 PM
Better safe than sorry Martin.
There are so many places in Far North QLD that are not even on a map. You would be spewing if you discovered one of these pristine, isolated spots but couldnt access it due to not having a tough 4wd.
One hell of a place i believe you have marked for your trip is The Daintree Rainforest.
Absolutely a magical place. My favourite on my trip. You can head up to The Cape using the boring bitumen road, OR you can and should go via Cape Tribulation.
As you pass through and head north toward Cook Town you have to pass i think about 5 creeks/rivers/streams or whatever they were. Now a couple of these are pretty dangerous cause you could have a diff-breaker below the surface so get someone to walk ahead of the car to guide you on the right path, (just watch out for the crocodiles). On one of these crossings i had water so deep it was coming above my bonet. Depending on what time of year you go, these crossings can be very unpredictable.
I believe from your posts that you want to see all that you can so maybe getting a 4wd as tough as you can afford is your option.
A must is to also have a UHF radio. Mobile phones are useless in some of these parts.
Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Apr 16 2008, 05:43 PM
Salty !
It was Nimrod whom you quoted & not SUMO
I do believe a 4WD is the way to go & yes the roads these days are pretty good BUT you have to bear in mind Bunyip Man is taking a car topper with him to go Dufeesing
A 4WD will make all the difference in some places in regards to launching the boat else he'll have to drag it through 5 paddocks over 3 fences & get chashed by Moo Moo Cows.
Posted by: It'l Do Apr 16 2008, 06:44 PM
Guys Martin said it before he needs a waggon so he can sleep in it.
Also if he buy one from another backpacker leaving Australia he will usually get heaps of extras (tools, spares, jerry cans, roof racks, etc)
Martin I have had 2 Prado's, 3.4 petrol and the current one is a 3.0TD. But a Prado is too small to sleep but the motor is great 1000km/130-140lts and not driven to save fuel.
I said it to you before you are on the right track a 60 series or GQ can be found within your budget. Also consider a 4runner but a 2.4D will be a lot slower up hills. The 4 runners are long enough to sleep in. I know they come in 3.0 petrol and 2.8 diesel. A lot of people add an after market turbo to the 2.8 and for you the performance would be fine.
Just keep looking and as you said if one does not turn up in Sydney get it in Queensland (Martin said there are more on offer with the gear he wants).
BTW, a Jeep would not be my choise and definately too small to sleep in.
Posted by: nimrod Apr 16 2008, 07:05 PM
Ok if you are intent on doing the OFF road bit, then you better be prepaired to spend a hell of a lot more money on recovery equipement.
How much 4 wheel driving experience have you got ?. I mean proper 4 wheel driving, where one minute you can be under water and the next driving through quick sand and the next being on a 43% slope sideways with huge boulders to negeotiate.
Do you know how to load a 4x4 for OFF road travel ?.
And you're going to have a boat sitting on your roof.
Don't under estimate OFF road driving in remote corners of Australia.
Posted by: It'l Do Apr 16 2008, 07:54 PM
Frank, true words but I think Martin will be sticking to well traveled tourist routes so help will always be not far off.
Martin my advice is to advoid deep water crossings and travel with another well equiped 4WD, you will find someone that will allow you to travel with them.
Martin explained to me at the Motor Boat club the extra gear is often included with a 4WD sold by a backpacker but I would say it is very limited.
I have not mentioned it before but I was a senior instructor with the Toyota Landcruiser Club in Sydney for 8 years. If he wants I can show him the basics that will get him where he wants to travel.
Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Apr 16 2008, 08:47 PM
Martin,
For what you want tp do a 4runner would be almost Ideal..
* More comfy than the patrol and the 60 series
* Better on fuel
* Will pick up a nicer car
* Definatly strong enough to take you where you want
* The Back of the 4runner with seats folded is the longest of them all, probably the only one you will be able to stretch fully out in, however is only SLIGHTY less in the wdth.
* You will find them and hilux shar all the same parts and are Very reliable.
I think its a defanate choice to check out..
the 2.8 diesels are a VEry strong motor if the oil is changed every 5000kms, however can be a little sluggish. But so can patrols and 60 series 2h's...
Definatly check them out anyway mate.. Fold the seats forward and jump in the back.. You will be surprised!
Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Apr 16 2008, 09:18 PM
I'm not going to jump in the back of a bloody Toy ota
Posted by: poly Apr 16 2008, 09:19 PM
good one RUM they were nice a little truck and well worth a look.
Posted by: poly Apr 16 2008, 09:22 PM
now theres a man that owns a DATSON
Posted by: It'l Do Apr 16 2008, 09:30 PM
Yeah and Sumo said it lacks suspension or was that a lack of 4WD speed. I think I was told you need to pad the roof of those Datsun's.
Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Apr 16 2008, 09:39 PM
Well Freddy !
You better start saving your penny's cause
In a few years time when I upgrade to the newer model Datsun I may allow to upgrade you thingy you call a 4WD & sell you my old one
Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Apr 16 2008, 09:50 PM
hahaha, upgradeing to a datsun is not an upgrade.... hahaha!
Crusiers are KING!
Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Apr 16 2008, 10:01 PM
How's your Toy Gearbox going Spud ??
Have you blown it up again of late ????
Spud's idea of a offroad vehicle is to literally keep it off the roads & in the garage
Posted by: It'l Do Apr 17 2008, 03:59 AM
You better start saving your penny's cause
In a few years time when I upgrade to the newer model Datsun I may allow to upgrade you thingy you call a 4WD & sell you my old one
I think not, I was told that it was road tested in a paddock when it was new. I bet they were trying to see if they could break it
Posted by: SUMOFISHIN Apr 17 2008, 02:35 PM
Well Freddie,
I did happen to road test that Datsun, in a paddock up on a Rocky Mountain when it was New,(not that I impressed it's owner too much )and it Performed Quite well, unlike a few of those UNBREAKABLE utes that are still up there broken on the rocks and rolled in the gullies, To sum it up the new Datson was impressive a vast improvement on the old ones. But it is WAY out of reach of Martin's Budget.
Posted by: MartinF Apr 17 2008, 03:49 PM
thanks for the advice again guys.
Just wanted to ask you opinion on pajero's, like say this one http://www.gumtree.com.au/sydney/62/16980362.html
There's a few of them around, a couple a lot newer than this one as well, and they're quite decently priced for the most part.
Again my own preference would be for a toyota or nissan but like to keep my options open anyway. Would you say the mitsu would be a far inferior choice?
Frank, I'm well aware of my own limitations and as has been said, most of the tracks I'm looking at are more well traveled than some of the really remote/hard tracks. Also, thousands of backpackers travel them each year in 4wds with a lot less of an idea for what to expect. Granted.. some of them get themselves pretty well stuck as well I think I told It'll do the story I read of some dutch backpackers who took a cruiser up to Cape York and didn't want to pay for the ferry at the Jardine river and attempted to just drive across it even though it was about 2 inches deeper than the hood of the car and they obviously got stuck. Morons.. spent 2 hrs on the top of the car and that place is infested with crocs as well.
Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Apr 17 2008, 03:53 PM
Martin 4Wd's these days are much the same.
many moons ago when I had a landcruiser we'd put shite on the nissan's theses days it's vias versa
I chose the Navara this this for a number of reasons
Liked it's looks
Towing capacity
Had a nissan 300ZX & it was the most reliable car that I ever owned
Was looking @ the Hilux @ time of purchase but the Navara got the nod esp with the rear fold up seats
As long as you stick with either a toy or Nissan you should be right Martin just steer clear of the other 4WD's
Posted by: nimrod Apr 17 2008, 04:31 PM
I won't say too much about the Pajero. ( as my opinion will only be shot down ) Will mention WA rego that has expired.
Are you going to go through the process of NSW blue slip, or drive the car unregistered till you get to WA, or do you know someone in WA that you can use their address for Rego.
Posted by: poly Apr 17 2008, 11:10 PM
Martin i owned a 92 model for 8 years i found it to be a very honest hard working wagon that never let me down in the bush and i have taken it to the same places as me mate in his Toyota 70sires it was not quit as good but still got me there
Frank i would be interested to here what u think of them 
Posted by: MartinF Apr 18 2008, 01:30 AM
Hmm I thought you could still extend the WA rego over the internet even if you're not living there.. that's why the WA registered cars are so popular with backpackers.
I def wouldn't put it on NSW rego since that's a pain anyway and way too expensive but you do raise a good point (for this particular one). I was looking at another pajero (92 model) the other day that was pretty nice.
Only thing is that it looked like the back seat couldn't really fold completely flat out of the way, just sort of double over which wouldn't be ideaal.
Think I might give that '91 GQ another look tomorrow if it's still for sale and pick that up. Have to start making a move soon. Although Frank, your offer about the car is pretty good as well. At least that way I know that I'm buying a car that has been looked after properly with no hidden faults and what not.
Maybe we can meet up this weekend or something if you've got time? Weather will prob be shite again anyway.
Posted by: MartinF Apr 18 2008, 01:44 AM
This one was just put up
http://www.gumtree.com.au/sydney/65/22894965.html
Price is a bit high but it does have aftermarket suspension, snorkel, some goodies and a fridge (which are like $1000+ new) so will give them a call tonight as well, see if I can't talk em down a bit.
Posted by: It'l Do Apr 18 2008, 03:30 AM
Martin, If you want something to sleep in stop looking at mid size 4WD's.
That 60 series comes with a lot of things. 21lt fridge is small, I have a 40lt and think that is small. I don't think a 21lt fridge would cost $1000 but could be wrong.
NSW rego would run out about the time you were in WA so that is not a problem.
Price is higher than you want to spend but from the photos it looks in good condition.
I say its worth a look and make an offer.
Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Apr 18 2008, 07:39 AM
That 60 crusier looks good mate!
Posted by: nimrod Apr 18 2008, 05:05 PM
I def wouldn't put it on NSW rego since that's a pain anyway and way too expensive but you do raise a good point (for this particular one). I was looking at another pajero (92 model) the other day that was pretty nice.
Only thing is that it looked like the back seat couldn't really fold completely flat out of the way, just sort of double over which wouldn't be ideaal.
Think I might give that '91 GQ another look tomorrow if it's still for sale and pick that up. Have to start making a move soon. Although Frank, your offer about the car is pretty good as well. At least that way I know that I'm buying a car that has been looked after properly with no hidden faults and what not.
Maybe we can meet up this weekend or something if you've got time? Weather will prob be shite again anyway.
Martin. Although I have no doubts that my Rangy would cope very well with anything you could throw at it and do the trip with ease.
It is a mid wheel base and I have actually taken the rear seat out of it to accomadate my full body length.
With the rear seat simply folded up there was not enough room for me to properly streatch out, and it was uncomfortable to sleep in. I am going to build a false floor in it and have slide out draws etc in the back. But this will be some time in the future.
That Cruiser you put up last seems to be the pick of the bunch so far. If your budget could streatch that far, as it already has many of the pieces you would need.
Don't like all that weight on the roof and you would have to find somewhere to store all that stuff so you could have the boat on the rack.
Pity is hasn't got steps on it.
I could convert the steps into fuel carriers which hold approx 30ltrs each side and gives a low centre of gravity for the weight.
I have made these before and maybe I should patent the idea, but then I have plenty of ideas that I should have had a patent on.
Another good idea is for a 4'' pvc pipe along the bottom of the bull bar for carrying oil. Diff g/box oil incase water contamination etc.
There is no end to the things you can do to save room and be prepaired for whatever may happen.
Posted by: nimrod Apr 18 2008, 05:20 PM
I forgot. I am sure you are aware of it but the better equiped the car is the better the re sale will be when it comes time to sell it and go home.
In this way you will be more lucky then most backpackers, cause if you like you will be able to take your time selling it.
You could leave it with one of us guys to sell it for you and transfer the money. That way you could keep the car till you leave and could hold out for the price you want.
Many visitors loose heaps of dollars cause they have to sell cheap to sell quick.
This is where the specialist backpacker caryard makes heaps, they play on the fact that those leaving have to get whatever they can, and those like you who are starting their trip have to pay what's asked.
Posted by: CATCH22 Apr 18 2008, 06:19 PM
But is is a means of floating on top of the water and driving across it.
thats what friendship is all about helping one another good man frank ..((but looks like polys boat)) ...same same /....
Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Apr 18 2008, 06:41 PM
Dont be ridiculous Dave !
poly's boat is yellow
Posted by: It'l Do Apr 19 2008, 04:07 AM
Martin,
Forgot what city did you say your journey ends?
You could see if someone could store the excess items if your journey finishes in Sydney.
Any news on 4B huntin?
Frank, Just to recap Martin needs the back seat installed, backpacker thing, needs to share the cost of the fuel.
When traveling by himself he wants the ability to comfortably sleep in the thing, you know a backpacker motel on wheels.
I know just bite the bullet and buy Sumo's RV, it's only money. :sumo: (I have no idea why the emoticon has Sumo's name on it but it must mean something to the original members. I hope it is funny)
Posted by: nimrod Apr 19 2008, 04:20 AM
Frank, Just to recap Martin needs the back seat installed, backpacker thing, needs to share the cost of the fuel.
When traveling by himself he wants the ability to comfortably sleep in the thing, you know a backpacker motel on wheels.
yes mate that is what i was trying to say ( my car would not be suitable for his needs ) .
maybe I didn't explain myself too clearly.
Posted by: MartinF Apr 19 2008, 04:53 PM
hey guys,
Thanks again for all the help. My trip ends (if indeed it does end, one never knows) in Sydney in all likelihood. Although if I do decide to stay a second year, I will forfeit my flight back to Holland anyway so I could fly from anywhere in Oz. Most likely though it will still be Sydney.
You're exactly right, I was actually eying a GQ that dropped about $1000 in three days because the guys didn't factor in enough time to sell the car before their flight back. If I do run into to trouble like that (although that's unlikely as I intend to spend the last month or so back here) it would be great if I could leave the car with one of you to sell it for me.
I called the guys with the cruiser but they were in the Blue Mountains for the weekend and I'm meeting up with them tomorrow morning. I'm hoping to get them down to around $6500 for it which I think is reasonable at the moment. Most others go for around $5500-$6000 but this one has more stuff on it. Realistically if I pay a lot more than that I won't get it back when I sell it again unless I get really lucky.
Frank if I do get it, that sounds like a good conversion and like I said in my PM I have some other things I want to put on as well so your help will be much appreciated. You're right in saying that the more is on there, the more it will sell for but up to a point, since backpacker budgets are limited. That goes for my budget too. Although I have plenty of money in savings back home, I don't want to blow it all on a car, so I've made a budget for the car/boat and one for my traveling expenses. Once that runs out I'll have to start working.. *yuch* ;-)
Anyway will let you guys know how I get on tomorrow. It certainly looks the business and has all the goodies but could still be a heap of crap of course..
Posted by: MartinF Apr 20 2008, 11:59 PM
Well good news guys.
I got the landcruiser. The last link, the white 60-series.
It's a good ride, raised a little bit, no odd noises in the drive shaft or diffs (like one I drove last week). Decent tyres, serviced properly, good history and lots of extras. Needs just a few things before I'm happy with it but mostly it's pretty good. They took my offer of $6500, having been offered lowered amounts earlier as I was expecting. Didn't want to risk having it stolen out from under me again so I thought I'd stay on the high side of the backpacker prices.
Realistically I think it's worth it. Looks good, couple small spots of rust but no real worries there and runs smooth as well. Plus it has pretty much everything I would want including a fridge (although admittedly a small one). Of course it hasn't been fitted out for boating/fishing so will need some work to get that sorted but over all I'm really very happy.
I can finally start looking ahead now and get underway with The Big Trip
I'm looking for a few things so if anyone has any second hand stuff they want to get rid of, please let me know.
- spot/driving lights for on the bullbar (bar already has the wires and places where they bolt on, just none on there atm)
- possibly a winch, although would have to see if it would fit on there
- 2 way radio/cb type thing plus aerial
- Good sized esky. There's one with it but I want another one for fishing
- Spear-fishing spear. Just a non-powered one, not a spear-gun
If I take up Frank's kind offer to lend me the boat, I'll need an outboard in the sort of 9.9HP ballpark
Also if someone has crab pots or a cast net that they're looking to get rid of, that'll save me buying them new.
Just so we're clear, not looking for hand-outs but if I can save money buying second hand, why not.
There will be more stuff I'll need but for now that's it.
Cheers.. I'm off to have a beer and celebrate
oh btw It'll do, you were right. I was thinking of a fridge/freezer but this is more of a cooler type thing. Saw it today at BCF for around $250 or so. Still, it's nice to keep a couple drinks cool.
Posted by: Bees Knees Apr 21 2008, 12:54 AM
Congratulations Martin. I hope she doesn't miss a beat for you 
Posted by: TomMc Apr 21 2008, 01:16 AM
Good stuff Martin!
If you get a cast net becareful where you use it because in some states it is illegal.
Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Apr 21 2008, 01:23 AM
Martin, if you want to get it checked out or go for new accessories, PM me and I wil hook you up with a good contact who will look after you!
Posted by: nimrod Apr 21 2008, 03:06 AM
I got the landcruiser. The last link, the white 60-series.
It's a good ride, raised a little bit, no odd noises in the drive shaft or diffs (like one I drove last week). Decent tyres, serviced properly, good history and lots of extras. Needs just a few things before I'm happy with it but mostly it's pretty good. They took my offer of $6500, having been offered lowered amounts earlier as I was expecting. Didn't want to risk having it stolen out from under me again so I thought I'd stay on the high side of the backpacker prices.
Realistically I think it's worth it. Looks good, couple small spots of rust but no real worries there and runs smooth as well. Plus it has pretty much everything I would want including a fridge (although admittedly a small one). Of course it hasn't been fitted out for boating/fishing so will need some work to get that sorted but over all I'm really very happy.
I can finally start looking ahead now and get underway with The Big Trip
I'm looking for a few things so if anyone has any second hand stuff they want to get rid of, please let me know.
- spot/driving lights for on the bullbar (bar already has the wires and places where they bolt on, just none on there atm)
- possibly a winch, although would have to see if it would fit on there
- 2 way radio/cb type thing plus aerial
- Good sized esky. There's one with it but I want another one for fishing
- Spear-fishing spear. Just a non-powered one, not a spear-gun
If I take up Frank's kind offer to lend me the boat, I'll need an outboard in the sort of 9.9HP ballpark
Also if someone has crab pots or a cast net that they're looking to get rid of, that'll save me buying them new.
Just so we're clear, not looking for hand-outs but if I can save money buying second hand, why not.
There will be more stuff I'll need but for now that's it.
Cheers.. I'm off to have a beer and celebrate
oh btw It'll do, you were right. I was thinking of a fridge/freezer but this is more of a cooler type thing. Saw it today at BCF for around $250 or so. Still, it's nice to keep a couple drinks cool.
Martin. That is great news mate, it looks like it is a good thing.
OK I can help you out with quiet a few of the things on your list.
2x 4" driving lights. I think I have some fog lamps here as well. You would have to have relays etc.
Uhf 40 channel cb radio and gutter mount arial.
Can set you up with bull bar rod holders x 4.
Can give you 4" pvc pipe threaded on one end with cap, can hold 12' beach rod or smaller.
Can even set you up with very cheap beach rod and 6" alvey reel if you want.
I do have an old hand spear you can have.
I have a 6' drop cast net somewhere, just have to find where I put it, ( probably down Bermagui ).
Unfortunately I don't have a large esky, but I do have an original Malleys metal 60 ltr esky that has never had food in it. But this is more a collectors item rather then a useful appliance.
I could get you a good discount on a new cooler, if you want to go that way, let's say 20%.
Unfortunately this offer is only open to visitors from overseas who are going around Australia.
As previously mentioned I have a 12' flat bottom square nose punt.
Anything else you can think of just let me know and I'm sure we can work something out for you.
OHHH just thought of something else you may have a use for is a portable GPS but then the in car ones these days are cheap as chips and something that I defenately would reccomend.
Posted by: Christos Apr 21 2008, 03:08 AM
I have been reading the thread and watching your progress. Sound like that you got a very good deal and are very happy with the outcome.
Nice one.
Posted by: salty fil Apr 21 2008, 04:38 AM
Great stuff Martin. Congrats!
Frank, i dont know you but i can say your a top bloke mate.
Posted by: Bees Knees Apr 21 2008, 06:26 AM
Good work Frank... Very nice.
P.S. how are you going for socks and undies??
Posted by: MartinF Apr 21 2008, 03:14 PM
Frank mate, you wouldn't happen to have a hot looking, sweet and caring (cooking, cleaning, ironing, that sort of thing) 22-26 year old single daughter somewhere as well would you? hahahaha
Amazing!
I brought my GPS from home with me.. it's a PDA with TomTom for the cities but I also put Oziexplore on there and have the Hema maps and all that on my laptop, just have to figure out how to get it to work as I couldn't try it back home but that shouldn't be a problem, computers being something I actually do know a little bit about
Give me a call when you get a moment mate so I know when I can bring the beast over and talk about all this stuff.
Really good stuff, you're really helping me out here!
Bees, I'm good for undies, it's just my lingerie collection that that could use a bit of a boost atm, but realistically, once I leave the city I'm not going to wear it as much so it can go in the trunk with the high heels and pumps
Posted by: jack Apr 21 2008, 03:41 PM
Imagine my surprise when you showed up for lunch the other day in the city, hardly recognized you.
Jack
Posted by: nimrod Apr 22 2008, 03:29 PM
Guess what/// I was down in one of the sheds yesterday and I found a few withches hats, 4 of, these haven't been used for some years and may or may not be in need of some repair.
You are welcome to them if you want them. they won't take up much room, but they are the type of thing that is not essential for a round aust trip.
Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Apr 22 2008, 04:28 PM
You are welcome to them if you want them. they won't take up much room, but they are the type of thing that is not essential for a round aust trip.
Spose you coud set them up around yuor new crusier when parked so no one crashs into you, specially when your sleeping??
Ohhh, do you mean witches hats? Sorry... Have and broom sticks??
Posted by: nimrod Apr 22 2008, 04:46 PM
Ohhh, do you mean witches hats? Sorry... Have and broom sticks??
Hey Rumpy, You got them rod holders yet ?.
Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Apr 22 2008, 04:46 PM
Hey Martin I was out carringbah way yesterday saw this & had the camera in glovebox
No idea on the price motor is a 20 hp yam
Posted by: MartinF Apr 22 2008, 04:52 PM
hey jumpy thx mate.
What size do you reckon that boat is? motor looks reasonably new too.
Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Apr 22 2008, 05:05 PM
Didn't get out of the car to have a good look but the boat looked like 11 ft with pretty deep hull
Posted by: jack Apr 22 2008, 05:15 PM
Motor looks reasonbly heavy as well for a car topper. You'd be carrying it quite a bit.
Posted by: nimrod Apr 22 2008, 05:18 PM
That package is going to be WAY over Martins budget, and 20 hp is getting to the size where you don't want to be logging it around fitting and taking off in uncool situations like steep banks etc.
With 20 hp Martin would get to the point of not going through the hassles of getting the boat into the water, on more occasions then not.
He would thereby miss out on a lot of water travel that he would do with a much small, lighter, no hassles 6 or 9.9 hp.
Just My opinion of what would happen.
I have been through it myself.
Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Apr 22 2008, 05:26 PM
Prob will be over his budget but all it takes is one ph call to find out
Posted by: MartinF Apr 22 2008, 05:29 PM
yeah good point actually. It's not like I'm a huge guy either so engine size would be a factor. My brother has a 6Hp 4-stroke (obviously much heavier than a 2stroke) and that's getting up to the sort of weight where you can't easily manhandle it at weird angles. Plus the heavier it is, the more momentum it's going to have in the car on corrugations and stuff as well.
Have had a good think about it and looking at finances and all that and I think I'd prob be best off to take you up on your kind offer of lending me the boat Frank.
So just have to find an outboard for it now. There's a pretty decent looking 6HP for sale in Newcastle on ebay but maybe there's a marina or something here in Sydney area that would be worth having a look at?
I'm already looking forward to being in the desert with the car and seeing all the looks on peoples faces. Or offloading it, putting it down in the sand somewhere, putting the motor on, breaking out the rods and sitting in the boat hahahaha.. that's gonna make an awesome picture
Oh btw Frank, looks like I'll be able to take delivery of the car tomorrow, possibly even tonight. Just in time to flee out of the city centre for Anzac day
Posted by: Rum Dust N Ruckus Apr 22 2008, 05:40 PM
That boat looks suspiciosly like a skua.. Probably not what your after as they ar a prtty havy boat for the size due to extra ribbing and reinforcement.
Posted by: nimrod Apr 22 2008, 08:28 PM
Martin. While I think of it there is one other item ( i'm sure you would have thought of it ) totally beside fishing or camping and that is tri pods, have you got ?.
And you will need a short shaft 16" motor for the punt.
I have got a 6 hp johnson that I used to use on on. But i have lent it to someone else.
Alternately I do have a 9.9 marina here but it had corrosion on the head bolts and head, and while trying to remove the head, I broke it in about 5 pieces. I have since bought another head for it but haven't got gaskets etc.
If someone could take the time who knows what they are doing to fit the head back on, and no doubt it would be in need of impella for water pump.
IF someone could fix this for me then Martin could also borrow the motor and would not have to purchase one.
Trouble now is time is moving on and we would have to move quickly.
Posted by: nimrod Apr 22 2008, 09:11 PM
Martin. This seems to be the only one on Ebay at the moment within easy pick up.
You could expect the bid to go up double what it is at the moment, and would still be good buying.
You could re sell it at the end of your trip so keep that in mind as well.
http://i15.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/e7/ca/53b2_2.JPG
OK I can't get the link to work.
ebay item # 290223715406 it is at $ 510 at the moment with approx 8 hours left.
Posted by: It'l Do Apr 24 2008, 02:10 AM
Martin, great news on the 60. I assume you paid for it and drove it home straight away?
As said before Frank's offer of the punt is very generous and I think you made the right decision accepting it.
I would be surprised but a 6hp would be a perfect match. A modern 9.9 (10hp) would be really the max I would consider but Franks knows the boat so take his advice.
Don't forget to post up a picture.
Posted by: poly Apr 26 2008, 09:51 PM
frank i came across this add it may be just what u are looking for to help martin out
http://www.allclassifieds.com.au/ac/ac0034?gcid=121927173
they don't give a hp number with the motor so if u think it is worth while i can check it out for u both
here is an other one 4 hp
http://www.allclassifieds.com.au/ac/ac0034?gcid=121932476
this one is a bit more expencive but i will put it up some one else may be interested
http://www.allclassifieds.com.au/ac/ac0034?gcid=121906826
Posted by: nimrod Apr 27 2008, 12:09 AM
Poly. We are looking for something between 6 hp and 9.9 hp, with a budget of around $ 1000.
It seems like anything that comes within his budget is always across the other side of the country somewhere.
We gotta get something pretty soon as Martin is preparing to hit the road.
Almost got all what we can do to the car done.
Posted by: poly Apr 27 2008, 12:17 AM
i will keep looking if any thing comes up out this way i can check it out for u
i will take a drive around the marine shops here in Canberra and see if they have any thing
Posted by: nimrod Apr 27 2008, 12:33 AM
i will take a drive around the marine shops here in Canberra and see if they have any thing
Thanks mate, appreciate it. We may have to freight one onto him if someone finds one.
Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Apr 27 2008, 01:30 AM
Well I did put up a post in Daniels thread in regards to a few 6 hp yammy's a mate of mine got his hands on recently.
Not a Back Yard mechanic & owns his own shop I offered one of these motors to Daniel for $800
Posted by: flattie_hunter Apr 27 2008, 02:17 AM
get your pm jumpus
Posted by: nimrod Apr 27 2008, 02:10 PM
Not a Back Yard mechanic & owns his own shop I offered one of these motors to Daniel for $800
Jumpy. Think you better bring this to Martins attention, that sounds like something that you can't go past.
Is it one of the motors from the water damage auctions recently ?.
Posted by: SUMOFISHIN Apr 27 2008, 02:27 PM
Martin, Now Listen Carefully I shall say this ONLY ONCE.
I have a mate at Kurri Kurri (the back of lake Macquarie) near Cessnock He owns an outboard sales and wreckers called BILLS Outboards and MORE If you give him a ring ask for bill and tell him George the Sumo From Manilla told you to ring he might have just what you want his number is 49361013 or you could send me a PM and I will ring him.
Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Apr 27 2008, 04:47 PM
Is it one of the motors from the water damage auctions recently ?.
Nope not one of those
Just rang him to see what he had left as these wittle hp motors go quick
9.9 yammy prob is that it is a 4 banger & prob be a bit heavy
1 only 6 hp yammy long shaft which wont suit the wittle tinny tinny
He does however have a 6 hp johnno s/s not as clean on the outside but said a better unit on the inside where it counts
Posted by: poly Apr 27 2008, 10:21 PM
there is a 6hp yammy here in Canberra just one year old and very little use + its a short shaft price is the killer $1400.00
this one is a bit old 9.9 suzi 4stroke 97 model looks crook, but it dose run well.
Posted by: Jumpus GooDarus Apr 27 2008, 10:51 PM
To late !
Bunyip Man has got a 6 hp yammy now
Posted by: poly Apr 27 2008, 10:52 PM
great thanks for leting me know
Posted by: nimrod Apr 27 2008, 11:36 PM
Bunyip Man has got a 6 hp yammy now
Jumpy. Thanks for setting Martin up with a motor.
It was starting to worry me that he might have to get one on his travels, which would not have been the ideal situation to be in.
I spose Martin would be on his way to Port Stephens now.
Boy what an adventure.
AAhhhh to be young and have enough money to be able to travel around Australia for 12 months, if only the clock could be turned back a few generations.
And after all the time he was here and with the mad dash and rush on the last day, I forgot to give him the tackle box I had here for him, all filled with essential goodies. I was keeping it as a last minute surprise for him, but at the last minute I forgot.
Posted by: MartinF Apr 28 2008, 12:29 AM
hey poly, thanks for helping me look mate. I haven't had internet for a few days so it's difficult for me to look for myself.
Like I said in the cartopper thread, Jumpy's mate had a nice 6hp yammy that I grabbed.
Frank, I'm still in Sydney mate, going to pick up the motor tomorrow (apparently my card has a bloody $500 limit that I didn't know about) and might also get that diesel leak thingie looked at before I head off. So I'll just pretend I didn't read that so it can be a surprise hey haha.. like you haven't done enough already!
Posted by: kkw Aug 3 2008, 03:10 PM
It was starting to worry me that he might have to get one on his travels, which would not have been the ideal situation to be in.
I spose Martin would be on his way to Port Stephens now.
Boy what an adventure.
AAhhhh to be young and have enough money to be able to travel around Australia for 12 months, if only the clock could be turned back a few generations.
And after all the time he was here and with the mad dash and rush on the last day, I forgot to give him the tackle box I had here for him, all filled with essential goodies. I was keeping it as a last minute surprise for him, but at the last minute I forgot.
Well - what has happened to Martin? Has he pawned Frank's boat?
Will he ever bring it back? Has he gone fishing at all? So many questions, so few answers.Anyone know where he is? Has he made it to the Whitsunday coast? Lots of rivers and creeks to explore up there. Just have to watch out for those big water lizards.
Posted by: jack Aug 3 2008, 07:33 PM
Hi KK
He made it to mackay when he posted his last chapter on his blog
http://www.travelblog.org/Bloggers/MartinNL/
Other than what he writes there I do ot know much more.
Does not seem to be catching many fish
Jack
Posted by: Phil Aug 6 2008, 01:42 AM
He contacted me while he was in Arlie,hpoe to call in here on his way back down the coast.Said he was heading for Cairns
Posted by: jack Aug 6 2008, 03:32 AM
quick update:
His little outboard broke down and needs/needed repair.
Must treat it a bit more tenderly I think
Jack
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